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Old September 15th, 2008  
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its workin so far

hi everyone i just want to show you what i had to do. i decided to get a betta for my community tank, he was very weak or something but the water curents from the filters will move him out of control so i had to do this in the mean time


he has a little space by the crystal ball where he comes out but some how he comes back to the crystal its weird but he likes it in there crystal a lot and he has been in the tank for 4 days so far so good
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Old September 15th, 2008  
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Congrats on the betta! but...

Bettas need to breathe air, they are labryinth fish. Ok, just watch out to see if he has any dificulty leaving the crystal thing.

With what other fishes is he sharing the tank?

and yes, add something like a fake plant to the outtake of the filter so the current does not throw him around.

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Old September 15th, 2008  
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he said it comes out, but if the current is to strong then maybe floating something under the current might be a good idea.
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Old September 15th, 2008  
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There are repeated posts and there is lots of information about bettas in community tanks here in the Fishlore betta forum. As you'll see, bettas are usually not successful in community tanks, based on a lot of direct experience from experienced members. Just try a search for "community" in the betta forum and you'll see lots of useful info.

I personally am getting kind of tired of the same ol' question.

Please read up. Of course, if you're hesitant to take advice, don't understand something, or just plain don't have a time to read every possible thing regarding community tanks, we'll all understand. Questions are always welcome. You can skim the gist of it in a few minutes, though.

One of the charms of bettas is how communicative they are with their people. They don't need other fish to be happy. They like people, not other fish! You can put a couple of species with them, usually successfully, such as cories and otos. They don't need "fish friends," but most will tolerate the few compatible ones. Other than that, don't even try a betta in a community tank unless you are VERY experienced with bettas.

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Old September 15th, 2008  
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There are repeated posts and there is lots of information about bettas in community tanks here in the Fishlore betta forum. As you'll see, bettas are usually not successful in community tanks, based on a lot of direct experience from experienced members. Just try a search for "community" in the betta forum and you'll see lots of useful info.

I personally am getting kind of tired of the same ol' question.

Please read up. Of course, if you're hesitant to take advice, don't understand something, or just plain don't have a time to read every possible thing regarding community tanks, we'll all understand. Questions are always welcome. You can skim the gist of it in a few minutes, though.

One of the charms of bettas is how communicative they are with their people. They don't need other fish to be happy. They like people, not other fish! You can put a couple of species with them, usually successfully, such as cories and otos. They don't need "fish friends," but most will tolerate the few compatible ones. Other than that, don't even try a betta in a community tank unless you are VERY experienced with bettas.
He didnt really ask any questions... he was just showing what he did, whats wrong with that?

Also keeping bettas is not as difficult as its made out to be... but you do need to make sure that bowl is open at the top so he can swim out, if its upside down and he gets stuck in it then he will probably die from lack of oxygen. I've kept them in community tanks myself with various livebearers and neons with no problem at all. Like Allessa said though, you need a slow current in the tank because they are not strong swimmers... also put some plants, either live or fake at the top of the water that he can hide in and get out of the current better. You can handle anything you set your mind on =)

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Old September 15th, 2008  
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guys betta its out in the tank swimming like a shark!!!!he looks strong and happy, so far no fin nipping!! im looking closely
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Old September 15th, 2008  
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He didnt really ask any questions... he was just showing what he did, whats wrong with that?

Also keeping bettas is not as difficult as its made out to be... but you do need to make sure that bowl is open at the top so he can swim out, if its upside down and he gets stuck in it then he will probably die from lack of oxygen. I've kept them in community tanks myself with various live bearers and neons with no problem at all. Like Allessa said though, you need a slow current in the tank because they are not strong swimmers... also put some plants, either live or fake at the top of the water that he can hide in and get out of the current better. You can handle anything you set your mind on =)

Remember this is not about what WE can handle it about our fishes' best interest. As far as I know platies are from SA and betta are Asian, they don't belong in the same tank. We try to keep our fish that are in the same tank from the same area, a natural setting.
Betta are harder to keep for many reason, you must have lucked out with that particular Betta. How long did the betta last in your community or how long was it set up?
Betta can live 3-5yrs in the right setting.
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Old September 15th, 2008  
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Remember this is not about what WE can handle it about our fishes' best interest. As far as I know platies are from SA and betta are Asian, they don't belong in the same tank. We try to keep our fish that are in the same tank from the same area, a natural setting.
Betta are harder to keep for many reason, you must have lucked out with that particular Betta. How long did the betta last in your community or how long was it set up?
Betta can live 3-5yrs in the right setting.
Nope, not luck... I had one that lived for 2 or 3 years in a community tank (55g) with guppys, neons, rasboras, corys, and a clown pleco. I also had one that lived about the same amount of time in a 10g tank with small angels until they were moved into their adult tank. Bettas are very similar in temperment to pygmy gouramis (same class of fish) and gouramis are also used in community tanks
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Old September 15th, 2008  
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gotta remember there are exceptions to EVERY rule...biggest thing is to have a back up plan if that rule is broken

rafikki has been in a community tank forever...is it for every betta? no..do I ever recommend it? nopers

I just worry reccomending something like this for a new fish keeper as they have a tendency to not keep an eye on things as everyone should when attempting this...for at least a few months to make sure things are ok...most new fish keepers see's the first part whether it be "betta in community tank works well " but dont see the rest...or "overstocking guppies is ok if" and dont see the rest...

as long as theres a back up plan, I think many things workout that shouldnt
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Old September 15th, 2008  
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Nope, not luck... I had one that lived for 2 or 3 years in a community tank (55g) with guppys, neons, rasboras, corys, and a clown pleco. I also had one that lived about the same amount of time in a 10g tank with small angels until they were moved into their adult tank. Bettas are very similar in temperment to pygmy gouramis (same class of fish) and gouramis are also used in community tanks
Betta that last that long are lucky. A 55g is a big community tank for all those little fish, so he had lots of space for himself. A smaller tank probably wouldn't have had the same luck.
I just find that the one male betta I had in a community wasn't as interactive as when one is kept in a 5g alone. I wouldn't put a fancy tailed betta in with a community... those HM tails are too pretty.
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Old September 15th, 2008  
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Betta that last that long are lucky. A 55g is a big community tank for all those little fish, so he had lots of space for himself. A smaller tank probably wouldn't have had the same luck.
I just find that the one male betta I had in a community wasn't as interactive as when one is kept in a 5g alone. I wouldn't put a fancy tailed betta in with a community... those HM tails are too pretty.
I do agree with you on the active part, and also that a lot of community tank type fish would love to eat those pretty tails =( But I did notice that in a larger tank that my betta was just active in a smaller area... I guess he just made his own 5g area to stay in lol

You should definitely keep a close eye on any agressive type fish, betta or otherwise that you have in a community tank... and remove them at the first sign of fighting or stress
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Old September 15th, 2008  
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Aggressive fish species are like people with mood disorders...ya never know when they are going to get a mood swing. lol
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Old September 15th, 2008  
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Aggressive fish species are like people with mood disorders...ya never know when they are going to get a mood swing. lol
So true
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Old September 15th, 2008  
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So true
Ever have an Oscar of any size?
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Old September 15th, 2008  
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Ever have an Oscar of any size?
LOL, yes! They are BIPOLAR.... mine used to attack me when I tried to do water changes... he tried to harass a rather large pleco (until the pleco thorned him with one of his fin spikes)... and he also frequently literally knocked himself out cold on the glass canopy lol
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LOL, yes! They are BIPOLAR.... mine used to attack me when I tried to do water changes... he tried to harass a rather large pleco (until the pleco thorned him with one of his fin spikes)... and he also frequently literally knocked himself out cold on the glass canopy lol

We had one around 10" who I think had a crush on me, lol. He would be all cute for me...but if Ty my bf went up to him. He'd open his mouth really wide and make this NASTY face at him. Bite the glass and everything. He would eat for me no problem, not the bf tho.
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Old September 16th, 2008  
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He didnt really ask any questions... he was just showing what he did, whats wrong with that?
He did ask the question about adding a betta to a community tank in another thread (Post #4) and received plenty of thoughtful responses:

whats the biggiest betta that you ever seen??

I have to admit to feeling grumpy about hobzz's situation. Poor fish. Look at the species he's mixing (Post #16).

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Also keeping bettas is not as difficult as its made out to be... but you do need to make sure that bowl is open at the top so he can swim out, if its upside down and he gets stuck in it then he will probably die from lack of oxygen. I've kept them in community tanks myself with various livebearers and neons with no problem at all. Like Allessa said though, you need a slow current in the tank because they are not strong swimmers... also put some plants, either live or fake at the top of the water that he can hide in and get out of the current better. You can handle anything you set your mind on =)
Clinton, you sound like an experienced fishkeeper, and I'm glad bettas in community tanks have worked out for you. It's always nice to see success stories like yours. However, I think the situation is headed toward disaster for someone who knows little about bettas.

hobzz, please keep in mind that anything anybody posts here is all in the best interest of you and your fish, even if it seems or actually is misguided. But I sincerely believe the advice you have been given about putting your betta in your community tank was sound advice. It's not a personal attack. We care about our own fish as well as other people's fish in this community.

Last edited by pamd; September 16th, 2008 at 12:48 AM.
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Old September 16th, 2008  
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I have to admit to feeling grumpy about hobzz's situation. Poor fish. Look at the species he's mixing (Post #16).

Clinton, you sound like an experienced fishkeeper, and I'm glad bettas in community tanks have worked out for you. It's always nice to see success stories like yours. However, I think the situation is headed toward disaster for someone who knows little about bettas.

hobzz, please keep in mind that anything anybody posts here is all in the best interest of you and your fish, even if it seems or actually is misguided. But I sincerely believe the advice you have been given about putting your betta in your community tank was sound advice. It's not a personal attack. We care about our own fish as well as other people's fish in this community.
Yikes... that is definitely not a good mix. I salute you on that call for sure
And I also agree with you that bettas in a community tank should not be taken lightly or more often not attempted at all, and experience along with careful monitoring and research are a must for all community tanks, even without bettas =)
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