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July 30th, 2008
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Fish Helper
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im thinking about gettin a betta but ineed advice
im thinking about getting a betta but i need advice / tips etc.i have a ten gallon and i hope to put one male betta and a couple cory cats just some ideas,pics,links etc. would be nice im goin on vacation today so i wont be here but ill catch up on what yal said when i get back.(hopefuly yal do post)
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July 30th, 2008
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Fish Helper
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ok the gourami had irindovirusso i took him back and im determined to get it right this time ty that info was really helpful i want to do it right and cut no corners.
Last edited by russ757; July 30th, 2008 at 09:38 AM.
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July 30th, 2008
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Your welcome, good luck
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July 30th, 2008
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Fish Helper
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ok ty i dont leave till this afternoon so i have a little time to get betta info
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July 30th, 2008
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Moderator
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Personally, I try to get my bettas from places that don't keep them in the little cups, as I don't want to encourage these places to continue their methods of overstocking bettas in order to make more sales.
For some people, this isn't really an option, though. I'm lucky enough that I have three local stores that keep their bettas pretty happy.
Get the tank fully cycled, and I would put the cories in before the betta (normally the cories go in last, because they need a really stable water quality, but putting them in first makes the betta less likely to see them as intruders). Either way, though, introduce either cories or betta, and let the tank go for a week before adding the other(s).
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July 31st, 2008
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Moderator ~ Betta Mommy
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If you had a fish with the iridovirus in the tank did you clean it good before starting this cycle? I am just afraid that it will transfer to the betta if you didn't clean the tank in between.
Rose
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August 1st, 2008
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Thank you, Rose. I didn't even think about that.
The iridovirus, if I understood things correctly, can survive for a week or two without a host.
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August 3rd, 2008
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Master Of Fish Poo!
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I'd definitely sterilize the tank fully after losing your gourami to that iridovirus.
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August 4th, 2008
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Fish Helper
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ok ty guys i actually learned that it wasnt irindoviros it was ich but yes i have the cories in first if that is bad or good
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August 4th, 2008
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Fish Keeper
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its good as it was already posted above but the tank needs to be FULLY cycled.
the most important thing is to cycle the tank before you add anything, otherwise you'll keep loosing fish and getting them sick.
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August 4th, 2008
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Fish Keeper
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Yes, it's best to have the corydoras in first, if you plan on housing them with a betta. The betta is less likely to get territorial if he's not the first one there; violence is more likely from him if he feels that "his" space is being invaded, as opposed to being the new arrival. 
How long did you have the tank empty before you added the corys? And what temperature was it at when it was empty? The ich parasite can stay dormant in your tank for several weeks without a host in cold water, and can even survive up to 5 days in warmer water (79-80F). It's important to be sure you don't have a "sick tank" before you add more fish, or your new fish are going to suffer from ich infestation as well.
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August 4th, 2008
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Agreed. Ich almost never hurts healthy fish, because their bodies can fight off the parasites before a population explosion. This means that most cases of ich are preventable. Keep your fish from getting stressed, and you'll probably never see ich.
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August 4th, 2008
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I feel like the bad guy here.
Russ, did you cycle your tank before adding any fish? 
When you first started, you said your mom wouldn't let you do daily water changes. Has that changed?
I really want to see you and your tank succeed, but when I think you're making the same mistake, I must speak up.
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August 4th, 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lucy
I feel like the bad guy here.
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Don't. It's a valid concern that Alessa and I both expressed.
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August 4th, 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sirdarksol
Don't. It's a valid concern that Alessa and I both expressed.
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As I did in my first post.
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Originally Posted by russ757
ok ty guys i actually learned that it wasnt irindoviros it was ich but yes i have the cories in first if that is bad or good
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and added cories anyway.
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August 4th, 2008
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Fish Keeper
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I do not want to sound rude russ but you need to understand something that we have all been trying to tell you, but you have not listened to:
If your tank isnt cycled your fish will keep getting sick. You cannot just ask a question about "what fish to get" and then run to the store and get them.
Cycling with fish is not a good method for cycling. We warned you several times in this AND in the other thread that you shouldnt do that and you did it anyways. You got the Dwarf Gourami and then told us that your mom "wouldnt let you cycle your water" or do the 50% water changes.
I am sorry to tell you this, but if these situations continue, you are not in conditions to keep fish responsibly. You better decide wether or not you can take mature descicions and stop buying fish impulsively without having a proper way to care for them.
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August 4th, 2008
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Lucy: I know, but we can only give information. In the end, everyone can make their own decisions. We can't make anyone do anything, nor can we keep someone from doing something.
Most people here have done something that isn't suggested at some point, whether it's putting fish into an uncycled tank, adding a betta to a community tank, or keeping goldfish in a tropical tank.
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