Tropical Fish and Aquarium Information

Go Back   Fish Lore Tropical Fish and Aquarium Forum > Freshwater Aquarium Fish Forum > Freshwater Fish and Invertebrates > Betta Fish

Betta Fish Forum - Betta Profile, Betta Fish Care Guide, Breeding Bettas and the Betta Tank Setup article.

 

Online Fish Stores: Drsfostersmith.com | BigAlsOnline.com | PetSmart.com | LiveAquaria.com


Aquarium Forum
General
Welcome To FishLore
Using the Forum
General Discussion
Members Fish Tanks
Photos and Videos
Member Photos
Member Videos
Freshwater Aquarium Forum
Freshwater Beginners
Freshwater Equipment
More Freshwater Topics
Freshwater Fish & Inverts
Ponds
Saltwater Aquarium Forum
Saltwater Beginners
Saltwater Equipment
More Saltwater Topics
Saltwater Fish & Inverts
Member Blogs
Member Blogs
Misc. Topics
Reviews
Aquarium Fish Clubs
Buy, Sell, Trade
Fish Memorials
Fish Profiles
Freshwater Fish
Saltwater Fish
Fish Forum Archives
Reply
 
Fish Forum Thread Tools
Old May 17th, 2008  
Fish Newbie
 
Opinion wanted....

Is there anyone on here that would agree that a betta shouldn't be kept in a heated tank because they are happier and live longer in cold water??


(NOTE: This isn't my view - I'm looking to see if anyone agrees)
Saya is offline  
Old May 17th, 2008  
Fish Mentor
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Saya View Post
Is there anyone on here that would agree that a betta shouldn't be kept in a heated tank because they are happier and live longer in cold water??


(NOTE: This isn't my view - I'm looking to see if anyone agrees)
Absolutely not true.....They thrive in a well filtered circulated heated tank...
Martinismommy is online now  
Old May 17th, 2008  
Fish Bum
 
the 2 bettas i have that are in 3 gallon vase's tanks seem less active then the ones in the 10g heated tanks. so my semi opinion is nope, better in heated tanks.
StriderHiyru is offline  
Old May 17th, 2008  
Fish Keeper
 
If by "bettas" you mean white cloud minnows, then yes, I'll agree. Otherwise, not a chance.
luna is offline  
Old May 17th, 2008  
Moderator
 
Nope, they do much better in a heated well filtered and lighted tank. They are much more likely to get ICH in a cold tank.
Carol
Butterfly is offline  
Old May 17th, 2008  
Fish Keeper
 
If the room is maintained at the right temp, then you will not need a heater. A filter is a must, as is air for O2 uptake.
One of the LFS we go to has a room with a mix of tanks, salt and fresh, no heaters in any of the tanks, and he said it works out cheaper to maintain the room temp than to try and heat or cool the tanks ( about 25, 350-400lt tanks )
Peterpiper is offline  
Old May 17th, 2008  
Moderator
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Peterpiper View Post
If the room is maintained at the right temp, then you will not need a heater. A filter is a must, as is air for O2 uptake.
One of the LFS we go to has a room with a mix of tanks, salt and fresh, no heaters in any of the tanks, and he said it works out cheaper to maintain the room temp than to try and heat or cool the tanks ( about 25, 350-400lt tanks )
but their still in "heated" tanks although there isn't a heater in the tank
Carol
Butterfly is offline  
Old May 17th, 2008  
Moderator ~ Betta Mommy
 
Bettas succumb to Ich, Velvet, finrot, constipation and several other nasty conditions if they are kept in coolish water (below 78 degrees constantly) over long periods of time or if the water they are in fluctuates a lot in temperature. The main reason I keep all mine at a temp of around 79 is because it is much cheaper to run the heater than to be buying the meds to treat the problems and better on my nerves. The constancy of the temperature is as important as the temp itself so the heater does play a role in the health of the fish. While room temperature control does play a part and can be used in some areas of the world or if you wish to use the furnace year round, to keep a room at 78 to 80 F constantly is hard and to allow it to drop at night below that is worse than the alternative. They need to be in a consistent temperature and otherwise it does nasty things to their whole metabolic makeup.

Rose
chickadee is offline  
Old May 17th, 2008  
Moderator
 
Bettas are tropical fish. The water they naturally live in is about the temp that we keep our tanks at.
And yes, heating a room full of tanks to the proper temp is heating the tanks. There are quite a few people who end up doing this, as it is cheaper when you get a certain number of tanks going.
sirdarksol is offline  
Old May 17th, 2008  
Fish Keeper
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by chickadee View Post
Bettas succumb to Ich, Velvet, finrot, constipation and several other nasty conditions if they are kept in coolish water (below 78 degrees constantly) over long periods of time or if the water they are in fluctuates a lot in temperature. The main reason I keep all mine at a temp of around 79 is because it is much cheaper to run the heater than to be buying the meds to treat the problems and better on my nerves. The constancy of the temperature is as important as the temp itself so the heater does play a role in the health of the fish. While room temperature control does play a part and can be used in some areas of the world or if you wish to use the furnace year round, to keep a room at 78 to 80 F constantly is hard and to allow it to drop at night below that is worse than the alternative. They need to be in a consistent temperature and otherwise it does nasty things to their whole metabolic makeup.

Rose
Hi Rose, I agree with everything you said.
The system I was referring to in my last post, is what we call a split system.
It maintains the room temp at the temp you have set, it heats or cools as required. The system is on 24/7. If the ambient temp is maintained constant, then the tank temp will be the same.
Peterpiper is offline  
Old May 17th, 2008  
Fish Master
 
never should a betta be in a vase, unless it has a heater and filter and 5 gallons or more
Shawnie is offline  
Old May 17th, 2008  
Fish Helper
 
My opinion of the statement is simple, it is exactly opposite of reality. This isn't really opinion, just read any scientific data on the species and their natural environment. The only ones who will promote the idea that a betta can live in a vase are those selling the bettas and the betta bowls and who are willing to take advantage of the fact that bettas are rather hardy and will survive under those conditions for a time. Bettas in a bowl are usually depressed and lethargic and when put into clean warm water become entirely different characters similar to a man who has been wrongfully imprisoned finally set free.
LetDiceFly is offline  
Old May 18th, 2008  
Fish Newbie
 
Thanks for all the quick replies...

I thought that it was rubbish - and didn't believe it...

My betta is kept in a 29L tank with heater and filter (I'm not cruel)...

Cheers, Sarah
Saya is offline  
Old May 18th, 2008  
Fish Master
 
They need heater and filtration for sure. I learned the hard way about bettas by have it in a little tiny betta kit, no heater or nothing. My betta at the time time got ich a lot.
Allie is online now  
Old May 19th, 2008  
Master Of Fish Poo!
 
No, I couldn't agree with those who think Bettas are better in vases and such. I look at the natural conditions of their wild ancestors as well as the requirements the domesticated Betta Splendens need and scientific and zoological facts bear out the Bettas need filtered, heated water and some swimming room.. the basic requirements for any tropical fish.
COBettaCouple is offline  
Reply

Fish Forum Thread Tools

Fun Fish and Aquarium Games!
Fish Tycoon
Fish Tycoon
Insaniquarium - Insane Aquarium
Insaniquarium
Insane Aquarium
Jenny's Fish Shop
Jenny's
Fish Shop

Similar Aquarium Fish Forum Threads
Thread Fish Forum
Opinion on Betta Travel Betta Fish
Your opinion pls?! Betta Fish
Cichlid Stocking Opinion Cichlids
Your opinion Angelfish
Stocking opinion?? Aquarium Stocking Questions



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.2.0 RC5 © 2008, Crawlability, Inc.
© 2008 FishLore.com - Aquarium Fish Information