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May 17th, 2008
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Fish Newbie
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Opinion wanted....
Is there anyone on here that would agree that a betta shouldn't be kept in a heated tank because they are happier and live longer in cold water??
(NOTE: This isn't my view - I'm looking to see if anyone agrees)
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May 17th, 2008
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Fish Mentor
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Saya
Is there anyone on here that would agree that a betta shouldn't be kept in a heated tank because they are happier and live longer in cold water??
(NOTE: This isn't my view - I'm looking to see if anyone agrees)
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Absolutely not true.....They thrive in a well filtered circulated heated tank... 
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May 17th, 2008
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Fish Bum
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the 2 bettas i have that are in 3 gallon vase's tanks seem less active then the ones in the 10g heated tanks. so my semi opinion is nope, better in heated tanks.
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May 17th, 2008
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Fish Keeper
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If by "bettas" you mean white cloud minnows, then yes, I'll agree. Otherwise, not a chance.
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May 17th, 2008
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Moderator
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Nope, they do much better in a heated well filtered and lighted tank. They are much more likely to get ICH in a cold tank.
Carol
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May 17th, 2008
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Fish Keeper
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If the room is maintained at the right temp, then you will not need a heater. A filter is a must, as is air for O2 uptake.
One of the LFS we go to has a room with a mix of tanks, salt and fresh, no heaters in any of the tanks, and he said it works out cheaper to maintain the room temp than to try and heat or cool the tanks ( about 25, 350-400lt tanks )
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May 17th, 2008
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Moderator
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Peterpiper
If the room is maintained at the right temp, then you will not need a heater. A filter is a must, as is air for O2 uptake.
One of the LFS we go to has a room with a mix of tanks, salt and fresh, no heaters in any of the tanks, and he said it works out cheaper to maintain the room temp than to try and heat or cool the tanks ( about 25, 350-400lt tanks )
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but their still in "heated" tanks although there isn't a heater in the tank 
Carol
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May 17th, 2008
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Moderator ~ Betta Mommy
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Bettas succumb to Ich, Velvet, finrot, constipation and several other nasty conditions if they are kept in coolish water (below 78 degrees constantly) over long periods of time or if the water they are in fluctuates a lot in temperature. The main reason I keep all mine at a temp of around 79 is because it is much cheaper to run the heater than to be buying the meds to treat the problems and better on my nerves. The constancy of the temperature is as important as the temp itself so the heater does play a role in the health of the fish. While room temperature control does play a part and can be used in some areas of the world or if you wish to use the furnace year round, to keep a room at 78 to 80 F constantly is hard and to allow it to drop at night below that is worse than the alternative. They need to be in a consistent temperature and otherwise it does nasty things to their whole metabolic makeup.
Rose
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May 17th, 2008
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Moderator
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Bettas are tropical fish. The water they naturally live in is about the temp that we keep our tanks at.
And yes, heating a room full of tanks to the proper temp is heating the tanks. There are quite a few people who end up doing this, as it is cheaper when you get a certain number of tanks going.
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May 17th, 2008
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Fish Keeper
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chickadee
Bettas succumb to Ich, Velvet, finrot, constipation and several other nasty conditions if they are kept in coolish water (below 78 degrees constantly) over long periods of time or if the water they are in fluctuates a lot in temperature. The main reason I keep all mine at a temp of around 79 is because it is much cheaper to run the heater than to be buying the meds to treat the problems and better on my nerves. The constancy of the temperature is as important as the temp itself so the heater does play a role in the health of the fish. While room temperature control does play a part and can be used in some areas of the world or if you wish to use the furnace year round, to keep a room at 78 to 80 F constantly is hard and to allow it to drop at night below that is worse than the alternative. They need to be in a consistent temperature and otherwise it does nasty things to their whole metabolic makeup.
Rose
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Hi Rose, I agree with everything you said.
The system I was referring to in my last post, is what we call a split system.
It maintains the room temp at the temp you have set, it heats or cools as required. The system is on 24/7. If the ambient temp is maintained constant, then the tank temp will be the same.
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May 17th, 2008
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Fish Master
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never should a betta be in a vase, unless it has a heater and filter and 5 gallons or more 
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May 17th, 2008
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Fish Helper
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My opinion of the statement is simple, it is exactly opposite of reality. This isn't really opinion, just read any scientific data on the species and their natural environment. The only ones who will promote the idea that a betta can live in a vase are those selling the bettas and the betta bowls and who are willing to take advantage of the fact that bettas are rather hardy and will survive under those conditions for a time. Bettas in a bowl are usually depressed and lethargic and when put into clean warm water become entirely different characters similar to a man who has been wrongfully imprisoned finally set free.
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May 18th, 2008
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Fish Newbie
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Thanks for all the quick replies...
I thought that it was rubbish - and didn't believe it...
My betta is kept in a 29L tank with heater and filter (I'm not cruel)...
Cheers, Sarah
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May 18th, 2008
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Fish Master
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They need heater and filtration for sure. I learned the hard way about bettas by have it in a little tiny betta kit, no heater or nothing. My betta at the time time got ich a lot.
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May 19th, 2008
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Master Of Fish Poo!
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No, I couldn't agree with those who think Bettas are better in vases and such. I look at the natural conditions of their wild ancestors as well as the requirements the domesticated Betta Splendens need and scientific and zoological facts bear out the Bettas need filtered, heated water and some swimming room.. the basic requirements for any tropical fish.
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