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Old July 28th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
I am going to try betta breeding!!!!!

Hi..... I want want to have a go at betta breeding but I will only raise 3 fry...... how can I find a good female for Indy?
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Old July 28th, 2009  
Fish Master
 
umm... just a question but what are you going to do with the other 297 fry?
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Old July 28th, 2009  
Fish Master
 
I'm with Red....
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Old July 28th, 2009  
Fish Master
 
matt betta breeding is super expensive and a ton of work...I think with the issues you have been having with your other tanks, might keep you busy for now...maybe wait a few years and save up the money before attempting this? it can cost thousands to breed bettas...and like the others said, you will have hundreds of babies and I know you wont have the heart to just get rid of them .....either way, good luck!
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Old July 28th, 2009  
Fish Bum
 
Shawnie is right breeding bettas is quite expensive and nothing but work. If you just want 3 fry I would not go through with all the trouble just buy some.
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Old July 28th, 2009  
Fish Master
 
i agree with everyone else too. Breeding bettas is very time and money consuming. Since you are a student, im guessing you will be at school for at least half of the day, the fry will need lots of care and time. Think it through, in time you will notice it is very difficult to raise the fry. take a look at karen's video. i dont know where it is and im sure someone will find it for you. It has all the set ups she needs and sues to raise healthy fry.
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Old July 28th, 2009  
Fish Mentor
 
woah, thats a really big, expensive and time consuming project (you need about 400 jars, 3 aquariums, and hundred of potential homes, thousands of dollars, and about 4 months of total free time) I wanted to try my hand at doing this over the summer, and it turns out that I need more time to do so, plus I'm not readily equipped.

Here's a Step by Step guide to breeding Bettas
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Old July 28th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
What makes it cost so much ? How can that cost thousanda?
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Old July 28th, 2009  
Fish Mentor
 
You need to purchase only the highest quality fish, this is already about $20-$30. Then you need about 400 containing jars for the fry. You need 4-5 aquariums, 1 for each parent, a spawning tank, and a growout tank for the fry. You also need to provide necessary equipment, like a heater and filter for every tank, so it may not look like much at first, but it all adds up.
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Old July 28th, 2009  
Fish Mentor
 
Oh, and Matt, when finding a female for a male, its best to purchase and breed siblings together (same fin type, slightly different colors among each sibling). This way, you have a good idea of what you're gonna get in the end.
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Old July 28th, 2009  
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I'm gonna disagree with some of the above statements, but agree with the overall sentiment.
What I disagree with is the idea that you have to spend hundreds of dollars on the initial breeding stock. If you want to breed show bettas, then of course you'll have to start with show bettas (or create your own line, which would take an amount of effort many times greater than just breeding a pair of bettas). However, if you just want to breed some bettas, all you need is a pair of juveniles (though finding juvies at stores can be kind of tricky). Think of bettas like you'd think of dogs. The known lines of show bettas are like purebreed dogs, while the typical storebought ones are like mutts. Purebreeds sell for much more, but that doesn't mean that the mutts can't breed. In fact, in many cases, the mutts breed much better, because they don't have much (if any) inbreeding tainting the line.
The same thing can be seen in koi lines. The show ones don't breed quite as well, periodically forcing breeders to "sully" their lines with junk koi. There was a point in koi's history that wild carp needed to be reintroduced to strengthen the koi's genetic base. The fish had grown so week from inbreeding that the species would have died otherwise.

Either way, it's best to have buyers for at least dozens of bettas lined up before you begin breeding. This is easier with purebreeds, since people are more likely to want to pay good money for, say, a black halfmoon than for a mutt veiltail (though I'd likely go for the veiltail, the amount I'd be willing to pay wouldn't help absorb the costs you've incurred in the breeding).
As far as I know, bettas would make okay feeders for larger fish (as long as the person using them as feeders can get over the whole idea of the bettas being cute), but again, selling them as feeders isn't going to recoup much of your costs.

I am going to agree that it is extremely expensive and time-consuming.
Whether you buy show-quality purebreeds or mutts, you'll need a good mix of high-protein, high-quality food to condition the pair to breed (this will also take a good chunk of time).

You'll need time to devote to the breeding itself, because it's best to monitor the process. Sometimes they don't quite get the process of breeding right and can really hurt each other without actually accomplishing anything.

Because there's no humane way to only raise three fry, you'll need a whole bunch of shelving filled with jars (for once the fry are old enough to get belligerent with each other) and several hours available each day to feed them and change their water.

You'll need shipping supplies (unless all of your buyers are local) and a few extra tanks to keep adults who end up not getting sold.

So, even if you're starting with a pair of "junk" juvies (these could even be a pair of undesirables from a show-bred line), your cost in both time and supplies is going to be astronomical.
If you want to toy around with breeding, it's usually better to start with something easier to breed, like guppies, and get used to the very basic ideas of dealing with fry, then work your way up from there. That's what I'm doing.
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Old July 28th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
Maybe I will rethink my idea
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Old July 30th, 2009  
Fish Addict
 
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Maybe I will rethink my idea

Agreeing with pretty much everyone above, just hold it back for a good time and maybe tinker with other breeding fish, and approach it when your ready.
I can tell you right now at the moment I couldnt even afford to think about trying to breed them myself!
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Old August 6th, 2009  
Fish Master
 
Betta breeding is a fulltime commitment...That's all I can add to this thread....
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