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October 16th, 2008
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| | Fish Keeper
| HELP! something wrong with Royal Blue!
Something is wrong with my Royal Blue 
Hi Fin is turning WHITE 
when he had fin rot a few months ago, it was more black at the edges then 3/4 of his tail fell off. its been growing back nicely, but in the last two days his top fin and now part of his tail are turning WHITE!!!
i've given him vita chem and garlic soaked food and today i gave addisons betta spa with almond leaf. still nothing.
he's acting normal, swiming alot, eating good, making bubble nests....but he does not look good.
what could this be?
sorry if the pics are a little blurry, he wiggles alot when he see's the camera | 
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October 17th, 2008
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| | Fish Keeper
| this is what he looked like before | |
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October 17th, 2008
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| | Master Of Fish Poo!
| Hmm.. with him acting fine and the color change only being in his fin, it would seem to eliminate parasites and bacterial infection as well as stress. Is the water chemistry all good?  | |
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October 17th, 2008
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| | Fish Keeper
| Quote:
Originally Posted by COBettaCouple  Hmm.. with him acting fine and the color change only being in his fin, it would seem to eliminate parasites and bacterial infection as well as stress. Is the water chemistry all good? | yep, when i first saw the beginnings of this on tuesday, we did a 50% water change and the waters all good. but the water was ok before that too. | |
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October 17th, 2008
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| | Master Of Fish Poo!
| They do sometimes undergo color changes, at this point that seems the most likely explanation and I'd just keep an eye on his appetite & behavior for now. | |
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October 17th, 2008
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| | Fish Keeper
| doesn't seem like a color change. he's gone through quite a few and they've never looked like this. seems like his fin will just break off on his back.
i'm so worried, even though he's acting fine | |
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October 17th, 2008
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| | Master Of Fish Poo!
| It would seem to be an unusual color change, if it is one but he just lacks symptoms of anything that would cause a color change to white. Giving him vita-chem and garlic guard is a good non-harsh way to generally treat him. I would stock Triple Sulfa and either Parasite Clear or Clout tablets just in case but honestly it would seem a very slim chance of him having parasites or a bacterial infection. | |
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October 17th, 2008
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| | Fish Keeper
| Quote:
Originally Posted by COBettaCouple It would seem to be an unusual color change, if it is one but he just lacks symptoms of anything that would cause a color change to white. Giving him vita-chem and garlic guard is a good non-harsh way to generally treat him. I would stock Triple Sulfa and either Parasite Clear or Clout tablets just in case but honestly it would seem a very slim chance of him having parasites or a bacterial infection. | thanks, i've got triple sulfa and clout on hand.  | |
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October 17th, 2008
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| | Fish Mentor
| just throwing in a thought, not sure if it could even happen or what could cause it, but it reminds me when you lose blood flow somewhere and the part of the body goes pale... but again its just a thought. Puzzling isn't it?
Balthier and I hope he gets better soon  | |
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October 17th, 2008
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| | Fish Master
| poor blue boy!! could he have fallen asleep and got some finnage sucked into the filter for a bit? I hope he does better! | |
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October 17th, 2008
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| | Fish Keeper
| That is really weird?I hope you find out what the cause is,I'm also happy to hear he's acting fine!Good luck with your Blue Guy Please keep us posted. | |
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October 17th, 2008
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| | Fish Master
| Jacq......
I have never seen this before.....I know with finrot the tail usually has black on the tips...With the white bettas it is a red bleeding color.....It is possible that he is changing color I suppose....I think if it were me I'd treat him with Tri-sulpha....
Good luck! I hope he gets better soon.... | |
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October 17th, 2008
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| | Moderator
| With everything we've seen on the forum, that's a new one.
I'm glad he's acting fine, that's a good sign.
We're thinking about you both, let us know how he's doing. | 
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October 17th, 2008
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| | Fish Keeper
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Originally Posted by Allie | great chart! the closest description was caused by pH too high,
just checked it, 7.6, not any higher than normal.
all the other water parameters are still fine.
it almost looks like the circulation was cutt off on his fin and it turned white, cuz its red at the base of the fin where it attacheds to his body.
he's swimming normally though. i'm home today, so i'll keep an eye on him. | |
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October 17th, 2008
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| | Fish Keeper
| Hmm if you look close at the pix it looks like he has white on his tail and his bottom ( anal?) fin..No idea what it is tho...good luck to you both. | |
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October 17th, 2008
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| | Fish Keeper
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Originally Posted by Fishies-for-me Hmm if you look close at the pix it looks like he has white on his tail and his bottom ( anal?) fin..No idea what it is tho...good luck to you both. | yeah, seems to be spreading to his tail also  | |
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October 17th, 2008
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| | Fish Master
| Weird, maybe it is a color change? | |
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October 17th, 2008
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| | Fish Keeper
| This is so perplexing. I even Googled it and came up with nothing that seemed remotely related but your post (second page).
I don't think it's a natural color change, because I doubt it would happen so fast and be so drastic. Also, the red at the base of his dorsal fin doesn't seem right. I think there's something wrong, and it's possible it has something to do with his blood circulation. Just a guess based on how he appears to me. I didn't find anything to back that up.
Gee Jacq, I hope he's going to be okay.  | |
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October 17th, 2008
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| | Fish Keeper
| well, today, he's swimming around like normal, seems happy, but more spots on his tail seem to be white. i'm so confused!! | |
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October 18th, 2008
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| | Master Of Fish Poo!
| Redness at the base of his dorsal fin does make me rethink the possibility of a bacterial infection. Is there any other redness in the affected finnage? | |
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October 18th, 2008
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| | Fish Keeper
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Originally Posted by COBettaCouple Redness at the base of his dorsal fin does make me rethink the possibility of a bacterial infection. Is there any other redness in the affected finnage? | nope, havn't seen any other redness | |
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October 18th, 2008
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| | Master Of Fish Poo!
| I'd consider feeding him antibiotic food, if he'll accept it. He may not have an infection, but it's something to start treating asap if he does. | |
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October 18th, 2008
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| | Fish Keeper
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Originally Posted by COBettaCouple I'd consider feeding him antibiotic food, if he'll accept it. He may not have an infection, but it's something to start treating asap if he does. | what is antibiotic food? | |
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October 18th, 2008
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| | Fish Addict
| Someone on the IBC group mentioned a pigment eating fungus they'd had experience with... is there any 'charcoal dust' looking stuff either on his fins at the border of the colour loss and normal colour or in the tank? If so, that's a possibility.
Hopefully it's something more minor... how long have you had him? Marbles can change colour extremely dramatically in a surprisingly short time, but that mostly happens when they're younger, and usually starts on their back just behind the head rather than on the fins... | |
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October 18th, 2008
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| | Fish Keeper
| Quote:
Originally Posted by Pandora Someone on the IBC group mentioned a pigment eating fungus they'd had experience with... is there any 'charcoal dust' looking stuff either on his fins at the border of the colour loss and normal colour or in the tank? If so, that's a possibility.
Hopefully it's something more minor... how long have you had him? Marbles can change colour extremely dramatically in a surprisingly short time, but that mostly happens when they're younger, and usually starts on their back just behind the head rather than on the fins... | there was a time when i could see a very fine black dots settled on the big leafs of his plant and on the bottom. but i can't see any of that today.
i just took a closer look and he seems to have regained a bit of color in the top fin and the redness at the base of the fin is gone.
would you suggest fungus meds anyway? i have jungle labs fungus eliminator.
i'll try to take new pics tonite, even tho he HATES the camera! | |
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October 18th, 2008
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| | Fish Addict
| Fungus eliminator works against both bacteria and fungus right?
If so, then it probably wouldn't hurt... redness might mean some sort of bacterial infection, so best to cover all the bases if there's definitely something wrong.
I hope he's doing better soon! | |
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October 18th, 2008
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| | Fish Keeper
| When I first got Sugar he his fins were white..they turned into a light blue color and his body was purple.
Sparkle was white when I got him now he a multitude of pastel colors with teal polka dots! | |
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October 19th, 2008
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| | Fish Keeper
| Royal Blue seems to be getting some of his fin color back. 
i've just been treating him with Vita-Chem, and Attisons betta spa. | |
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October 19th, 2008
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| | Fish Master
| I was going to suggest getting some Almond leafs and making the "tea" as they call it......I believe Attisons Betta spa is an extract from the almond leaf so that should work good too........ | |
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