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December 14th, 2007
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Fish Master
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Grrrr. Why are bettas so aggressive?
I was going to try to transfer 3 corys from their current tank, which is getting close to overstocked, to the betta tank, which is 12G for a betta alone.
So I transferred my female to a bucket, moved things about, moved the cory in, moved her back in, and she just flared and flared and flared and attacked him. So I took her back in and tried with another female. This one didn't even flare and went straight to bite him. So things are back to what they were.
Why can't they all play nice, hey.
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December 14th, 2007
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Moderator
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Hi Armadillo
I dont know why they cant play nice! Especially when you give them friends to keep them company!  I keep my bettas in tanks by themselves.. and just decided a long time ago not to give them any tankmates. They can look at each other through the glass or in the case of the two females, they can look and flare at each other thru the divider.
 ~ kate
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December 14th, 2007
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Fish Master
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I kind of had my hopes up as one of my females is sooo sweet with her tankmates (corys). She even waits her turn in their little food bowl. Ah well. Such is life.
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December 14th, 2007
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Why can't you do it with the female that already has cory's as her tank mates? Natalie
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December 14th, 2007
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Fish Master
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Yeah it's frustrating sometimes...not sure if you were on here yet when I still had Dorado but he was a huge male but the sweetest guy, had him in my 20 with the tiny dwarf cories and otos. So I figure, hey, maybe I could put some other fish with Cas or Fuego.  Nope.
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December 15th, 2007
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Fish Master
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Thanks for the suggestion, Natalie. I was contemplating it, but really I don't want her tank to be overstocked, and I'd moved the corys out of there in the first place to make sure she wasn't in an overcrowded tank. According to the inch per gallon rule she wasn't overstocked, but it's a tall hex, so not that much surface to swim on.
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Originally Posted by nmwierman1977
Why can't you do it with the female that already has cory's as her tank mates? Natalie
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December 15th, 2007
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Fish Master
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I even tried talking to them, LOL. Telling them that, I too, needed a while to see what was so great about corys, but that really, they are the cutest things. But no, to no avail. They went ahead and were their 'I wont' share my toys' selves all the same.
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Originally Posted by 0morrokh
Yeah it's frustrating sometimes...not sure if you were on here yet when I still had Dorado but he was a huge male but the sweetest guy, had him in my 20 with the tiny dwarf cories and otos. So I figure, hey, maybe I could put some other fish with Cas or Fuego.  Nope.
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December 15th, 2007
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Master Of Fish Poo!
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Unfortunately, the females are WAY more likely than the males to refuse to share terrritory with even cories & otos.
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December 15th, 2007
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There seems to be a definite trait through the breeding methods of bettas. Some are placid, other super aggressive, and a good deal of this is through whether they are bred as a community or as individuals.
I have spent a considerable time researching the different breeding methods for bettas and found that when raised singly they are much more aggressive towards other fish than if they are raised in a community with the rest of the brood. This could account for why some will and others won't tolerate tankmates. At the moment I have 9 young bettas all happily growing up in one tank with some neons for company and they are all fine together. Even the three males aren't showing any real aggression as yet.
It may just be a case of putting the cories in and letting them settle down too. Cories are pretty tough little critters and I doubt that the betta could do them any real harm, other than stressing them a little, so it may be worth giving them a little time to adjust to the idea.
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December 15th, 2007
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Fish Keeper
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How about this then. Why don't you move the female that has the cory's in it in the 12 gallon along with the corys and put the female that's in the 12 gallon in the hex tank. You have 2 cory's in with her now right, plus 3 more that was in the other tank? Just so I'm understanding this right. I just looked at your stock. So, you have 6 corys all together. Are they all 2 inches long? Or since they are different kinds do they vary in size? I'm just trying to figure out a way you can do it, so you don't overstock your other tank. Natalie
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December 15th, 2007
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Master Of Fish Poo!
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I forgot to mention it before, but when Bettas are curious about something, the way that they check it out is to 'nibble' at it. They're not so much biting as they are feeling. I don't know if that's what your girls were doing or not, but I will see our bettas check something new doing that.
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December 15th, 2007
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Fish Master
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Originally Posted by COBettaCouple
I forgot to mention it before, but when Bettas are curious about something, the way that they check it out is to 'nibble' at it. They're not so much biting as they are feeling. I don't know if that's what your girls were doing or not, but I will see our bettas check something new doing that.
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I see mine do that all the time. They even nip at me now & again.
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December 15th, 2007
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Fish Keeper
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Originally Posted by 0morrokh
Yeah it's frustrating sometimes...not sure if you were on here yet when I still had Dorado but he was a huge male but the sweetest guy, had him in my 20 with the tiny dwarf cories and otos. So I figure, hey, maybe I could put some other fish with Cas or Fuego.  Nope.
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Were the cories and otos in the tank before Dorado? I just read in this FishLore thread a couple of suggestions that a betta is more likely to accept tankmates who were there first. I hope people will chime in to see if indeed there is a pattern regarding introduction order, even though I realize there will probably be wide variations depending on the individual betta's aggressiveness.
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December 15th, 2007
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Fish Master
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Originally Posted by pamd
Were the cories and otos in the tank before Dorado? I just read in this FishLore thread a couple of suggestions that a betta is more likely to accept tankmates who were there first. I hope people will chime in to see if indeed there is a pattern regarding introduction order, even though I realize there will probably be wide variations depending on the individual betta's aggressiveness.
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Yes Dorado was the last one in the tank, while my other 2 were already in their tank before I decided to try tankmates. Dorado was a lot more laid back than the other two, but I'm sure the order I put them in the tanks made a bit of a difference.
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December 16th, 2007
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Fish Master
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Don't you think that the betta could kill it? She was really going for it. I was wondering about giving it time too, but it looked pretty savage first time she tried, so I removed her immediately.
That's what I thought (about the breeding method): 2 of my 3 bettas were brought up in community tanks, and only 1 of them is sociable: the one that I had sharing with the corys from day 1 in my house. So maybe I've missed the boat on the community-raised one that I allowed to live on its own immediately?
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Originally Posted by timandkaren
There seems to be a definite trait through the breeding methods of bettas. Some are placid, other super aggressive, and a good deal of this is through whether they are bred as a community or as individuals.
I have spent a considerable time researching the different breeding methods for bettas and found that when raised singly they are much more aggressive towards other fish than if they are raised in a community with the rest of the brood. This could account for why some will and others won't tolerate tankmates. At the moment I have 9 young bettas all happily growing up in one tank with some neons for company and they are all fine together. Even the three males aren't showing any real aggression as yet.
It may just be a case of putting the cories in and letting them settle down too. Cories are pretty tough little critters and I doubt that the betta could do them any real harm, other than stressing them a little, so it may be worth giving them a little time to adjust to the idea.
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December 16th, 2007
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Fish Master
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MMmmmm. Now THERE's a thought, Natalie. I could move my calmer female to the 12G, and add 3 corys to that one in addition to the 3 panda corys that already live with her.
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Originally Posted by nmwierman1977
How about this then. Why don't you move the female that has the cory's in it in the 12 gallon along with the corys and put the female that's in the 12 gallon in the hex tank. You have 2 cory's in with her now right, plus 3 more that was in the other tank? Just so I'm understanding this right. I just looked at your stock. So, you have 6 corys all together. Are they all 2 inches long? Or since they are different kinds do they vary in size? I'm just trying to figure out a way you can do it, so you don't overstock your other tank. Natalie
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December 16th, 2007
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Fish Master
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The way they did it was really vicious. Really not their nice, cute, little nibbling, but on the contrary: head butting followed by biting at full speed. Plus lots of flaring for one of them.
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Originally Posted by COBettaCouple
I forgot to mention it before, but when Bettas are curious about something, the way that they check it out is to 'nibble' at it. They're not so much biting as they are feeling. I don't know if that's what your girls were doing or not, but I will see our bettas check something new doing that.
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December 17th, 2007
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Master Of Fish Poo!
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lol.. I love their little nips.. especially when they really get into it & try to shake your finger.
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Originally Posted by Allie
I see mine do that all the time. They even nip at me now & again.
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