armadillo

I was wondering if there was a more technical way than 'pale pink', or 'darkish purple/brown' to describe the colours of my 3 females. What would htey call them in shows, for example (aside from 'not show-worthy', LOL)?

Here they are.

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Chief_waterchanger

Pink butterfly (Butterfly in that name means the fins are a different color than body)

The purplish/red/whatever color one can just be called red. I know it isn't JUST red, but it would more than likely be shown as a red.

The other one would be considered yellow, I believe.
A nice shade of yellow, I might add. It is hard for us to find yellows that are not the washed out hay yellow overhere.

armadillo

Wow, thanks, Ross.

So:
My 'dark pink' is a yellow,
My 'pale pink' is a pink butterly (and suddenly I understand Carol's handle).
and my 'dark purple' is a red.

Cool, I can finally use the proper names for their colorations. Thanks!

Chief_waterchanger

Sounds about right.

That one I labeled as yellow is actually pink? Are my eyes that bad or is the fins yellow and body pink?

Oh and Carol's handle, she actually loves butterflies.

capekate

hmmm maybe my eyes are wrong but that last photo of the female doesnt look yellow to me, it looks like a copper colored betta.
they are all beautiful btw....

~ kate

armadillo

Oh, she loves the really butterflies, not the bettas?

Well am terrible with colours (says my husband). Whenever I describe one to him and he sees the real thing, he just looks at me like: DOH! So don't quote me on this, but she's kind of this colour (ignore the actual meaning of the smiley, it's just that it's the closest one in colour): , or maybe more like this: . I went through all the smileys, and she's the most like the angry one. Kind of like orangey-pink if there's such a thing.

Her fins are the same colour, but a little transparent (which worries me, btw, but that's another thread). So maybe you see the yellowish light through them?

armadillo

Oh, and the purple one (which I called metallic) is actually red and blue. She has alternating red-blue scales which is impossible to make out with my camera. Is there a name for that do you think?

Sorry to bother you with this, but I find naming conventions fascinating! (I did zoology partly because I LOVE taxonomy!)

armadillo

Copper as in: ? (look at the colour of the smiley, not the meaning, LOL). Because that's more or less her colour. She's slightly more orangey/brown than that.

COBettaCouple

I'd say Pink Butterfly, Red and Copper on them.

armadillo

OK, in the case of butterfly, how do you state the colour of the fins? Do you say pink/blue-red, or blue-red/pink.

Copper sounds closer I think.

COBettaCouple

actually, i'm wrong.. according to the IBC, she wouldn't be a butterfly.

armadillo

Oh really? Could you send me the link please? Am just on their homepage but not finding the types immediately.

COBettaCouple

They're on this page: http://www.ibcbettas.org/downloads.htm under 'standards' but you have to be an IBC member to d/l them. I'm just remembering what we learned when we watched the seminar on judging guidelines at the betta show.

armadillo

This is a nice link too, although it doesn't answer my question as to what my 'butterfly' is: http://watershed3.tripod.com/types.html. Am continuing to look. Fascinating stuff.

Apparently, to be a true butterfly, you have to have only 2 solid colors.

armadillo

Oh, and all my females have double rays. Am reading here (http://www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=62711) that it means they're delta or super delta.

This surprises me. I thought deltas/superdeltas were to do with the angle of the fan-shape they could reach with their fully extended tail.

COBettaCouple

As far as I know, delta and super delta does refer solely to the degrees the tail fin is when fully extended & doesn't have to do with the rays.

armadillo

That's what I'd always read. Must be a mistake by the author.

Oh, check this out about butterflies (bold formatting is my own): (http://meltingpot.fortunecity.com/al...bettatypes.htm, Ethan Wheeler, Information on Betta Splendens)

The Butterfly ... fins, must display a banded pattern. Emphasis is placed on the contrast and crispness of the band, not the colouring of the body and fins.

The band should be crisp - not a lightening of opposing fin colour (meaning a Yellow with a lighter Yellow outer band is not a Butterfly, but a Yellow with a clear band is a Butterfly).


The bands should scribe an even oval around the fish. There are two forms the banding may take: A two band fin pattern, where the fins are divided equally between the number of bands. the multiple band pattern is sometimes difficult to identify since two of the bands, though distinct, may be subtle but different shades of the same colour. In this case, shining a flashlight from behind the fins may aid in detecting this trait but lack of definition between bands is considered a fault.
The Butterfly body and the colour in the first fin band may be either a single colour, Bicolored, Marbled or Multicoloured.

The general basis of faults of the Butterfly Bettas:
The principles, which determine the arrangement of the fault charts found in this portion of the text, are:
1) For two band fins, the bands should occupy 1/2 the fin area on all fins.
2) For multiple band fins, the bands should occupy 1/(number of bands) of the fin area on all fins.
3) The dividing line between fin bands should be straight and scribe an oval around the Betta.
4) The degree to which a second colour intrudes, lack of crisp definition, also affects the degree of severity of the fault.

So that would make her totally not a butterfly, as she has no bands.

armadillo

OK, so I think my pink female is a cambodian. Here's how they're described:
'flesh colored bodies and colored fin' (http://www.thebettabubble.com/pgs/care/cares.php?id=6, Colors and tail types)

I've also seen the colour of a betta they called copper, and it's not the same as my 'brown' female (http://freshaquarium.about.com/gi/dy...tta_colors.htm).

So my question is: what colour would my 'brown' female officially be called?

Also, is there a name for that lovely black lining that 'frames' their tail?

And, is there a name for hte fact that they are all double-rayed?