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Old June 25th, 2007  
Tom
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Re: Same-sex marriage, good/bad? For school

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hi hi hi, or the English gay archbishop!
And our new pope was a Nazi.
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Old June 26th, 2007  
vin
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Re: Same-sex marriage, good/bad? For school

Very well put sick-lid-boy.....I'm not overly religious, but I do have my beliefs....Having said that, I have a hard time taking these writings word for word where in itself there are multiple versions of several significant events within the bible that were to have happened....
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Old June 26th, 2007  
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Re: Same-sex marriage, good/bad? For school

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hi hi hi, or the English gay archbishop!
And our new pope was a Nazi.
Tom
Am no fan of the guy, but in his defense, he wasn't a nazi but part of the hitlerian youth, and he was absolutely not a consenting adult at the time. Am only sore at him because I had bet that the belgian cardinal would win!

Oh, and I really don't think all religious people will be against same sex marriage. It's all so personnal, isn't it?
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Old June 26th, 2007  
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Re: Same-sex marriage, good/bad? For school

Seeing as school is out... what did you get on the project!?

My views:
I am Roman Catholic. That being said... I believe the Church has a right to say that homosexuals can't marry, as does every church. I believe that "marriage" shouldn't even be in the governments language. For heterosexuals and homosexuals, the government should perform civil unions. I may be the only Catholic to say this but I do believe they have all the rights I do! It's not going to ruin the sanctity of marriage, it's not going to ruin families. I think that there are hundreds of gay couples who have been trying to adopt and will make wonderful parents but they get turned down. This will strengthen their cases. So, yeah! :-)
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Old June 26th, 2007  
vin
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Re: Same-sex marriage, good/bad? For school

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Originally Posted by armadillo
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Originally Posted by Tom
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Originally Posted by armadillo
hi hi hi, or the English gay archbishop!
And our new pope was a Nazi.
Tom
Am no fan of the guy, but in his defense, he wasn't a nazi but part of the hitlerian youth, and he was absolutely not a consenting adult at the time. Am only sore at him because I had bet that the belgian cardinal would win!

Oh, and I really don't think all religious people will be against same sex marriage. It's all so personnal, isn't it?
It depends upon the religion...Unitarians don't seem to have a problem with it....They seem to welcome all into their fold. They - as most religions should - are happy to provide a place where no one is judged and can practice their religion as they see fit.
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Old June 26th, 2007  
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Re: Same-sex marriage, good/bad? For school

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Originally Posted by Amnagrla
Seeing as school is out... what did you get on the project!?

My views:
I am Roman Catholic. That being said... I believe the Church has a right to say that homosexuals can't marry, as does every church. I believe that "marriage" shouldn't even be in the governments language. For heterosexuals and homosexuals, the government should perform civil unions. I may be the only Catholic to say this but I do believe they have all the rights I do! It's not going to ruin the sanctity of marriage, it's not going to ruin families. I think that there are hundreds of gay couples who have been trying to adopt and will make wonderful parents but they get turned down. This will strengthen their cases. So, yeah! :-)
Wow ya, I actually meant to reply to this before but had to leave the computer and sister deleted my window : I got a low A on the project partly because I didn't do enough research in one part and my friend screwed up after I told him not too. He wanted to bring up that allowing same-sex marriage would lead to polygamy and group marriages and ya, we got torn up for that really mad about that because we weren't doing that bad. They actually did better than I thought, actually one girl did all the work and told the other two girls what to do. They didn't really bring up any arguments we were hoping they would and our best argument was that it affects the children....and I didn't do enough research on that So ya we lost but I got a good grade and got a 89 for the quater but did well on the final and got a A for the semester and since it's a honors class it's 5.0 which I'm pretty happy about.

My view since I haven't really voiced it is that it shouldn't be allowed. I'm a christian and I firmly believe it flat out says NO to homosexuality in the bible. That's good enough for me, but I know for those that do not believe what I do that means nothing. Mainly in today's society what I have against it is that it's not good for children and that marriage has been between a man and a woman, why change it now when it is something that has with stood for so long for? It's not proven that it's genetic, and from what I've from what I've gathered from various people the consensus is that it's more environment than anything else, if this is true, which I believe it probably is, then won't we be encouraging homosexuality? Homosexual activists argue homosexuality is OK and that were just not used to it, ok some people aren't that's correct but they also say that we don't give children a choice, ok but then they aren't either if they adopt kids. And when you think of it, I believe if I remember correctly 40% of US children grow up in single parent homes, that will be increased and studies show children do best when they have a mother AND a father. Then again we give children choice, there's homosexual clubs in my school and other schools, they have a choice when their old enough to choose. I don't have anything against homosexuals and don't mind them, just I don't think they should redefine marriage for all of us.

thanks to everybody who isn't argueing about anything here
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Old June 26th, 2007  
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Re: Same-sex marriage, good/bad? For school

I say no to same-sex marraige, its againts my religion to say yes.
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Old June 27th, 2007  
vin
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Re: Same-sex marriage, good/bad? For school

Sorry, I have a difficult time believing that children born in a heterosexual environment are somehow then influenced to be gay as young as 10-12 years old without prior exposure to the lifestyle. Ihave an uncle who is gay...No one else in my family is gay....I'm supposed to believe that he was somehow influenced by his home life and surroundings? And that should he adopt children that he'd somehow influence them to be gay? Or would he teach them to be tollerant just as my parents taught me?

I'm a Christian myself and have a difficult time following my catholic upbringing when the very same people who told me that homosexuality is wrong because it says so in the bible are out there themselves molesting young boys and giving in to the very thing they preach to us not to do.

That is hypocrisy in it's finest form.
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