armadillo

Interesting stuff, and well presented. This might not help much but I have no preference either way.

I guess I would lean towards legalise, as indeed (as Tan said) it gets tiring to say bf/gf after 10 years in a relationship. It's nice to show the world you're committed, and it's for real, and I see no reason why homos or heteros would have different rights on that one.

More substantially, I would find it unfair that a person surviving the death of their homosexual partner would not automatically be the life insurance beneficiary, child custody holder, and main heir.

tan.b

exactly! it makes situations like death easier when married. especially of there's no will and has to go through probate. this should apply to everyone whether gay or not.

btw, the uk has commonlaw wife/husband thing, but unsure of the length of time you have to be living together and how it could be proved (in the case of death and inheritance/next of kin issues) so marriage is more concrete. more grey areas with commonlaws. at least a marriage certificate makes it clear and unargueable (if thats even a word?!!)

armadillo

I think that unless you are 'fully' married, then you have to pay inheritance tax if your partner dies. But not sure. Am getting married in a month, so won't have to deal with that hassle!

Tom

Our laws are almost the exact same since Canada was a colony of Britain.
Tom

MutantX007

NO SAME-SEX MARRIAGE

its even says in the Holy Bible
its says NO homosexual acts
you must resist it

Tom

This might be a little late, but I looked everywhere and found out it was actually capital punishment and not same-sex marriage, it was another group that had done that.
Tom

Joy44

I don't think that homosexuality is a choice. Having said that I would think that anyone who wants a life time commitment to another person should be intitled to the benefits of a "marriage". There are so many legal rights that a spouse has as far as life insurance and custody of children and that sort of thing that I find it hard to believe that one would need to fight for that just because the love of their life just happens to be the same sex. My husband however believes that it takes away from the sacredness of heterosexual marriages if "anyone can get married" Obviously we don't see eye to eye. But hey aren't two opinions better than one when it comes to a debate? Good luck on your debate.

Stradius011

I don't think it should be allowed.

armadillo

Wow, talk about reviving a thread. This one's 1 month old. I do like it, though. I particularly like the fact that noone got angry although there were some different perspective. Well done once again, FishLore!

vin

Tell that to the catholic priests....

armadillo

hi hi hi, or the English gay archbishop!

sick-lid boy

I keep seeing this topic pop up on the new posts list and up until now I haven't bothered to look at it. But now that I have, I might as well voice my opinion on the subject.

It's 2007. If two consenting adults want to get married, let them... regardless of gender. At the risk of offending the religious people on this forum, I just have to say this: In this day and age are you really going to let a book that was written so long ago that they thought the world was flat going to run the lives of every person in the modern world? Basically every argument in opposition of same sex marriages focus on the Bible card or the 'sacredness' of marriage. It's fine if that's what you believe, but how are you going to let your beliefs dictate the lives of others that don't have the same beliefs?


Send all hate mail to my lawyer.

Tom

And our new pope was a Nazi.
Tom

vin

Very well put sick-lid-boy.....I'm not overly religious, but I do have my beliefs....Having said that, I have a hard time taking these writings word for word where in itself there are multiple versions of several significant events within the bible that were to have happened....

armadillo

Am no fan of the guy, but in his defense, he wasn't a nazi but part of the hitlerian youth, and he was absolutely not a consenting adult at the time. Am only sore at him* because I had bet that the belgian cardinal would win!

Oh, and I really don't think all religious people will be against same sex marriage. It's all so personnal, isn't it?

Amnagrla

Seeing as school is out... what did you get on the project!?

My views:
I am Roman Catholic. That being said... I believe the Church has a right to say that homosexuals can't marry, as does every church. I believe that "marriage" shouldn't even be in the governments language. For heterosexuals and homosexuals, the government should perform civil unions. I may be the only Catholic to say this but I do believe they have all the rights I do! It's not going to ruin the sanctity of marriage, it's not going to ruin families. I think that there are hundreds of gay couples who have been trying to adopt and will make wonderful parents but they get turned down. This will strengthen their cases. So, yeah! :-)

vin

It depends upon the religion...Unitarians don't seem to have a problem with it....They seem to welcome all into their fold. They - as most religions should - are happy to provide a place where no one is judged and can practice their religion as they see fit.

atmmachine816

Wow ya, I actually meant to reply to this before but had to leave the computer and sister deleted my window : I got a low A on the project partly because I didn't do enough research in one part and my friend screwed up after I told him not too. He wanted to bring up that allowing same-sex marriage would lead to polygamy and group marriages and ya, we got torn up for that really mad about that because we weren't doing that bad. They actually did better than I thought, actually one girl did all the work and told the other two girls what to do. They didn't really bring up any arguments we were hoping they would and our best argument was that it affects the children....and I didn't do enough research on that So ya we lost but I got a good grade and got a 89 for the quater but did well on the final and got a A for the semester and since it's a honors class it's 5.0 which I'm pretty happy about.

My view since I haven't really voiced it is that it shouldn't be allowed. I'm a christian and I firmly believe it flat out says NO to homosexuality in the bible. That's good enough for me, but I know for those that do not believe what I do that means nothing. Mainly in today's society what I have against it is that it's not good for children and that marriage has been between a man and a woman, why change it now when it is something that has with stood for so long for? It's not proven that it's genetic, and from what I've from what I've gathered from various people the consensus is that it's more environment than anything else, if this is true, which I believe it probably is, then won't we be encouraging homosexuality? Homosexual activists argue homosexuality is OK and that were just not used to it, ok some people aren't that's correct but they also say that we don't give children a choice, ok but then they aren't either if they adopt kids. And when you think of it, I believe if I remember correctly 40% of US children grow up in single parent homes, that will be increased and studies show children do best when they have a mother AND a father. Then again we give children choice, there's homosexual clubs in my school and other schools, they have a choice when their old enough to choose. I don't have anything against homosexuals and don't mind them, just I don't think they should redefine marriage for all of us.

thanks to everybody who isn't argueing about anything here