mlinden84

One thing I've noticed since I switched to Prime - I spend the same or less on water conditioner. Since you only need a few drops per gallon (or a capfull for 50 gallons i think it is), the bottle lasts a really long time. With the cheaper water conditioners you have to use more, so you go through it more quickly. In the long run you are spending the about same amount of money.

COBettaCouple

True.. especially when you buy the big bottles of it.

capekate

Morph, I have added Evelyns post here, so that you can see that it was in fact to her post that I was responding to. My response was in reference to her freaking out when the ammonia "goes up". And was the same words I used in my response.I was not insinuating that anyone was not diligent in their upkeep and the response was not directed towards you personally. It was an observation made, expressing that IMO these products are band aids and that the best course of action is to keep up with regular water changes.
Now.. you say that sometimes things happen that are out of your control. To this I have to reply, that if you have a cycled tank.. a person really should never have any ammonia showing in their readings unless..
1) a person has added a large amount of new fish to the tank at once.
2) treated with meds and have lost some beneficial bacteria,
3) added new filter media, cleaned all the substrate and decorations, vacuumed and did a almost total water change all at the same time which can cause a mini cycle in a tank.
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As I said, IMO products that bind ammonia are just band aids. The number one course of action when for some reason one finds ammonia during a water test is to immediately do a water change to bring down the ammonia reading, not bind it. These products can help in the short term, if you are not able at the time to do the water change.
I do not think my response was insulting anyone.. and was not directed at you, it was just a statement and Im sorry that you took it so personally.

angelfish220

Prime is used in my tank as as water conditioner with benifits. It was the only water conditioner that I could use and be sure all the hard metals from our ancient pipes (Im pretty sure it is illegal to install this system because of all the heavy metels in the pipes) are out of there. the tetra one aquasafe, like didnt take out all the metals and I had fish die because of it.

KittieKat

ive noticed that most of the ppl that have answered to this post have said they would only use one product because another failed... if u read carefully on the back of some of these said products it says to use WITH another product. easy balance (says to be used with another) is certainly a product i use tho i would never consider using ANY product alone. with each water change easy balance and its chemical capturing ball things help to keep the remaining water in the tank safe in addition to the fresh water put in. i think ive used just about all the products on the market out here except for prime (only cuz of price and difficultly to get my hands on, not stocked often).

the way i see it.. any product can work as long as it has a friend to help it. using two products doesnt hurt, it helps for in case one does happen to fail. no product should be used alone... companies do have problems with batches in production. its just being on the safe side to ensure that the fish wont be harmed for the one time the company sells a tainted product.

COBettaCouple

I found other conditioners to work fine, but switched to Prime because of the wide range of things that it does. Fish Protector is the 2nd best conditioner to me and I use both.

Evelyn1919

i think the best thing to do instead of using so many products (like ammolock) is doing the water changes. at least i can tell how much better the water is doing that way. ammolock still gives you ammonia readings and you never really know if your fish will be fine or not. also i find a lot of pleasure doing water changes. i love doing them for some crazy reasons even though after pulling my 20gal bucket up and down my apartment my back kills me for days LOL. i still like to do it and more if my fishes are going to like it better too which really seems to be helping them a lot.

Morph

Maybe you should take a few lessons on how to talk to people, because you're coming off quite condescending. my 2 cents

luna

She's not coming across that way...maybe you're too used to other forums where people speak to eachother in that way, and reacting based on that experience. I've been on other forums where that kind of behavior is (unfortunately) prevalent, and it does alter the way you read things.

I would find your accusational tone rather rude and offensive, personally, but maybe that's just me. Maybe you could try not to read so much into how you think she's wording things and focus on the advice she's giving?

SereneReyn

i don't think any offense was intended morph. i do think perhaps you've jumped the gun a bit. no big deal... lets all move on, shall we?

COBettaCouple

ck's never come off as condescending and in reading this thread over carefully, I only see you coming across as hostily defensive. This thread is closed. Check the Fishlore rules that we all agreed to - rude and abusive posts aren't acceptable.

Edit by Tom: And if she was ever rude or condescending towards other members, do you think Mike would have made her a mod?