Fu Manchu Dude

hey all,
the 120 gallon wont be happening as we dont have room but ill be gettin an 80 gallon tank instead... its going to have a 3d rock background and 3 large peices of driftwood + a black gravel substrate.
i thinking a canister for filteration. now its the stocking, i want it to be aggressive and a mix of couler ive narrowed it down to 9 different species and im keeping 3 of these and a featherfin catfish... wich is best
Convict
Jack Dempsey
Salvini
Texas
Green Terror
Red Devil
Blue Acara
Oscar
Severum
Dont forget it will have great filteration
thanks for any help guys.

eiginh

Oscars!!!!

Nick G

Hi Zeek, the tank sounds great but unfortunatly the stocking list you have will WAY overstock the tank, you might want to think about narrowing it down a bit. A have a 90gal Cichlid tank with 1 Oscar, 1 Jack Dempsey, 1 Green Severum, 3 Jewels and 1 Convict, and this is still a little overstocked!

Sorry Zeek, I mis-read your post, thought you were goibg to stock ALL those fish!

eiginh

His last sentence before the list, he stated he is keeping 3 of the species in the tank, he is asking which is the best out of the list to keep in the 80 gallon.

Nick G

Ok, sorry about that. As for stocking, forget the Red Devil, he'll kill anything else you put in! I had a Blue Acara in my tank but he couldn't stand up for himself so he lives with my Angels and Kribs now, so I wouldn't reccommend him either.

bolivianbaby

Here's my

Oscar
JD
Severum

I love my convicts, but with the amount of room you'll have in that tank, bigger is definitely better The oscar and JD will give you a lot of personality, for sure. I'm not familiar enough with the severum personality, but they are BEAUTIFUL!

Nick G

Severums have great personality! Mine behaves just like my Oscar, always coming to the front of the tank to beg for food. He's a lot less aggressive though!

eiginh

Oscars! They aren't glittery colored but I like the orange and black colored ones! We had one but my dad kept him in a 40 gallon so he became very aggressive. I think he lived for about 5-6 years, poor guy.

Fu Manchu Dude

thanks guys,
what do you think of texas and salvinis.. ill seee what some others have to say
i love oscars aswell
plus salvinis are beautiful
so now the list is down to
Oscar
Jack Dempsey
Salvini
Texas
Convict
Severum
Green Terror

Nick G

I'm not familiar with Salvini Cichlids, Texas Cichlids get pretty big, however I've read that until they reach 4 or 5 inchs that it's not a good idea to keep them with other Cichlids as they tend to get beat up pretty badly or even killed. If I was stocking your tank I'd get a Dempsey, a Severum, a Green Terror and a pair of Convicts. I'd get wait until the other fish got bigger until I added the Convicts though, as if you get a pair they will be very aggressive and attack the other fish.

Fu Manchu Dude

thanks nick
this is such a hard decision lol

MissMTS

If you wanted to go with the salvini and texas, I would add a JD into the mix because out of your list, its probably the only one that will be able to hold its own. I have heard of many people keeping Texas with tank mates, but they are boisterous aggressive fish so their tank mates need to be chosen carefully. If possible, I would get them all very young and let them grow up together.

If I were to choose from your list, I would go with the following:
1 Oscar
1 Severum
1 JD

Good luck with the new tank!

Fu Manchu Dude

Thanks MissMTS
do you guys think i could go with
1 Longfin Tiger Oscar
1 Jack Dempsey
1 Severum ( Green Or Gold )
1 Eather Salvini Or Convict
1 Featherfin Catfish

MissMTS

I would say yes, but you will need very heavy filtration and large weekly water changes to keep up with the bioload. I would go with a con instead of a salvini. Salvinis can be little terrors and your sev and oscar wouldn't be happy. I would also try to get all the same sex which would decrease your chances of having aggression issues.

Fu Manchu Dude

what type of filteration do you guys suggest ??
no to pricey please but i want it to be good so the fish are happy..
ill have to have a big think about the stocking list guys...
thanks for any suggestions and help

aquarist48

Hello Cichlidkid. As for your filtration I suggest having at least 800gph for the large fish that you want to keep. (if not more) I think 2 Aqua Clear 110's with 500gph each would do nicely giving you 1000gph. I have 2 of these filters and I'm really impressed with their performance. Lots of room for bio media and very easy access.
Best of luck!
Ken

Fu Manchu Dude

Thanks Aquarist48
do you guys no of any australian online sites as they will be cheaper than in my LFS
thanks guys

Fu Manchu Dude

HeyGuys,
As for filteration im thinking a Jts 4 Stage canister filter With A Built In UV Sterilizer.. It says its for tanks up to 500 litres but it only does 1400Lph . what do you think.

gmen4life

well id say a jd a green terror and an oscar would be awesome but regardless throw a jd in the mix

Fu Manchu Dude

Thanks Gmen4life,
im scared that a green terror could harrase and oscar
just want to let everyone know im still open for suggestions

iloveengl

I don't know anything about their compatibility, but after seeing Shawnie's JD, I have to recommend one of those and then deciding on the others depending on their compatibility with the JD. Heehee but I'm sure whatever you decide will be amazing! I'm already excited for your pictures!

MissMTS

I'm not familiar with that filter, but I agree with Ken that the AC 110's do a great job. You should also check ebay. I just ordered my filter off of there and I got it for $150 less than the regular retail price. A lot of the sellers are reputable wholesale dealers, offer a 7 day return policy, and guarantee their products.

Fu Manchu Dude

Thanks MissMTS,
What are the chances of 2 AC 70's filtering that tank im off to my lfs now and ill see what they have instock for filters....

Fu Manchu Dude

OMG im sorry that i aaked you all those questions for nothing lol...
it turns out i am getting a 120 for my b-day... ill make another thread.
sorry and thanks for all the help

I've closed this thread. Thanks!
Ken