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Old August 11th, 2009  
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Could Karma Be Lonely?

Karma (my con hybrid) has been very closely watching the new 55 gallon tank with the two jellybeans (Hekyll & Jekyll) and the female con (Cleopatra).

I don't want another con in there with her since we think she's a hybrid. However, do you guys think she'd be happy if there was another single fish in the tank with her?

If so, what do you suggest? Her happiness is very important to me and I don't want her to be lonely.

Any thoughts, opinions, or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
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Old August 11th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
well maybe pick out a female con for her then no babies? im not sure if they will fight or what not but i boutght a femal for my africans i want mine to be mean incase my aurtas get out of line lol
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Old August 11th, 2009  
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besides any type of con rocks mean lil buggers they are funy when they flair up at each other and face off my female beats on my poor male while there is eggs to eat lol and the male just takes it imagine if female cons got as big as males?
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Old August 11th, 2009  
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What about a peaceful species? Would she be compatible since she's not spawning?
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Old August 11th, 2009  
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It just depends BB.. Anything you add is a toss up. She may or may not allow it.
Sounds mean but there is only one way to find out, add something new and see how it goes.

I would make sure it is a fish you wouldn't mind keeping in a different tank just in case it does not work out.


Brian
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Old August 11th, 2009  
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Hmm, maybe I'll just leave her by herself and try to give her a little more TLC. She plays peek-a-boo with me (no, I'm not kidding). She's not a fan of the ping pong ball I put in there.

Maybe I can change her aquascaping a little bit. Any ideas on some new "toys" for her? Do you think she might enjoy some of those "hamster tubes"?
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Old August 11th, 2009  
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You could try some fake plants. Don't bury them, just set them on the bottom, she will move them around to how she wants them.

Brian
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Old August 11th, 2009  
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That's a good idea! And I already have those at the house.

I can visualize her happily re-arranging the plants, too. Who knows, maybe it'll turn into a new game for her and I to play. I've already seen her picking up different pieces of substrate.
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Old August 11th, 2009  
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Hey! hmm you could add PVC pipes or get lots of rocks for her to play and hide and stuff
maybe get her a clown pleco or something like that
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Old August 11th, 2009  
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There's some more good ideas!

Thanks, Tony
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Old August 11th, 2009  
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Originally Posted by bolivianbaby View Post
Karma (my con hybrid) has been very closely watching the new 55 gallon tank with the two jellybeans (Hekyll & Jekyll) and the female con (Cleopatra).

I don't want another con in there with her since we think she's a hybrid. However, do you guys think she'd be happy if there was another single fish in the tank with her?

If so, what do you suggest? Her happiness is very important to me and I don't want her to be lonely.

Any thoughts, opinions, or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
your jellys are a hybrid lol nothing wrong with hybrids unless you plan on selling them as full blooded lines...everyone has an opinion on that and mine is they are cool! but I dont sell fish nor do I break up the lines of different ones I share...no need to keep her lonely because shes a mix breed but thats my opinion cons are social fish and do like others..whether she is full blooded or a mix, id get her some friends
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Old August 11th, 2009  
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hmmm i say add a con
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Old August 11th, 2009  
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your jellys are a hybrid lol nothing wrong with hybrids unless you plan on selling them as full blooded lines...everyone has an opinion on that and mine is they are cool! but I dont sell fish nor do I break up the lines of different ones I share...no need to keep her lonely because shes a mix breed but thats my opinion cons are social fish and do like others..whether she is full blooded or a mix, id get her some friends
So what do you suggest as a tankmate(s)? Other cons or something else? Are we pretty sure she's a female? If so, maybe another female?

I guess what it comes down to is this: I want her happy first and foremost. But if there's a chance of spawning, I also need to make sure that I am able to take responsibility for and find homes for any babies that occur. I guess I'm concerned that may be more difficult because of her hybrid status if the babies don't show her color.

Am I being wwaaayyy too paranoid here?
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Old August 11th, 2009  
Fish Master
 
lol youre panicking arent you?
lol
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Old August 11th, 2009  
Fish Master
 
what size tank is she in again?
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Old August 11th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
add a con lol
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Old August 11th, 2009  
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I was going to say the same thing as Shawnie. No reason she can't be with the other Cons. My Jellybean breeds with a black Con, and my LFS is excited to see what exactly they produce.
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Old August 11th, 2009  
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lol add a con
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Old August 11th, 2009  
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what size tank is she in again?
She's in a 20 gallon long
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Old August 11th, 2009  
Fish Master
 
I would get 2 girlie cons to go with her...but remember, shes been alone for so long, you might have to remove her, redo the deco and switch stuff around, then put the newbies in and her after....you will have room in the 55 if the girls dont get along
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Old August 11th, 2009  
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Okay, I'll try that then. I'm going to re-aquascape her tank anyways to give her something new to look at, so I'll do it then.

Thank you
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Old August 11th, 2009  
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3 female cons in a 20? I couldn't even keep 2 females together in a 75 with other cichlids. JMO, but I think you'd have some real issues there with aggression. For what it's worth, she appears to be a normal female con to me... maybe try a male? I still think that's pushing it in a 20, but others have done it so it might work.
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Old August 11th, 2009  
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I have 5 fems in a 75 gal sa tank..and 4 in a 75 african tank..all do fine...they actually spawn together, but of course wihout the man to do his work, nothing comes of it...although I did have one spawn in the african tank..the other ladies noses are highly out of joint they werent picked LOL ...I also have 3 fems in a 20 gal and they do fine ...they were raised together tho...female cons are much more easy to get along with others IME but again, each fish is different...karma has been spoiled and loved alone for so long, she may not tolerate anyone
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Old August 11th, 2009  
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karma has been spoiled and loved alone for so long, she may not tolerate anyone
Very true I hope she does, though, but if not, we have the backup plan. To be honest, there's more than one backup plan. There's the 55, the empty 29, and another empty 20. I really don't want Karma to breed. At least with the jellybeans, we know what's in them. Parrot + convict=jellybean convict. With Karma, it's ? + convict + convict= . That scares me a little. I really want to be a responsible fishkeeper

Female cons with her will definitely prevent any breeding from taking place
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Old August 11th, 2009  
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youre such a good mommy
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Old August 11th, 2009  
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youre such a good mommy
Awww, thank you. That made my day
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