agabr123

Well, the title is pretty self explanatory To avoid clutter and confusion on the main stocking page, please post suggestions/ideas/etc here. For reference, here's the link to the actual stocking thread
Work In Progress: Freshwater Community Stocking List

Thanks!

pinkfloydpuffer

Well, I think you could say that for under a 2.5g you could have small shrimps or small snails. But no fish obviously. Although with a tank that small it is very hard to keep water quality up and stuff.

I've found that if you get 1 male and 2 females you can actually have 3 in a 10g. But it's very important that there isn't more than one male, or you'll have big trouble on your hands. I think you could even fit 3 DPs and 3 otos if you are willing to make sure it works and keep up on water quality. Really in such a small tank, 50% weekly changes are not hard at all, it's what I always do. I'd say the actual bioload of a DP is about 2 gallons worth, but the space is obviously for territorial reasons.

Did you want help with the other sizes too? I can provide a few. And if I think of more I can add. Once you get above 10gs there's lots of options.

I'm not 100% sure on this (gallons-wise), but I think that 3 bumblebee gobies would work well with a F8 in 20gs. 2 F8s in the 29g.

Are we including GSPs? They are technically brackish, though it's easier to just keep them in SW I think. Saves $$$ on salt at least. One in 29g and 2 in 55g if you have excellent upkeep. Ceylons are also very similar in care but are a bit larger and need 40gs a piece I believe. They can be kept with GSPs with no problems. But again, they are kind of SW fish, so I don't know if these apply.

To the list of huge fish you could add the mbu puffer-1000g minimum

There are so many fish that can work in the larger aquariums it's hard to say....

You could add ropefish and bichirs to the 55+

And there's so many FW puffers that you could fit it's insane...
Starting at 20gs there's quite a few species, and it just goes up from there....
Let me know if you want me to list them. They are kind of specialty fish, so I don't know if that's what you want on this list.

Great post by the way, very helpful.

agabr123

hmm, i think that i'll keep out the 1 male 2 female thing only because even i have trouble sexing them!

absolutely, i'm including as many of the "standard" aquarium sizes as i can.

i thought about including the GSPs, but i guess they would technically be classified as "saltwater" fish so i'm kind of on the fence about it.

i'd love to include specialty fish, for the larger aquariums you can basically just multiply the number of neon tetras for a bigger tank but wouldn't necessarily know about the more unique fish.

pinkfloydpuffer

Ok....

The so-called "Avocado Puffer", which could actually be one of two similar species, needs a 20g FW
Fahaka puffer needs 125 FW
South American needs 15gs FW each, but like living in groups (I think 3+ is good), and are 'community with caution: fin-nippers', unlike most puffers which are species only or specimen only.
Any of the red-eyed puffer species need 20gs FW
Baileyi needs 25g FW
Arrowhead/hognose need 30g FW
Congo (miurus) needs 30g FW
Abei needs 25g FW

Other than the F8s, pretty much all BW puffers I know of can also be SW, so I will pass on them.

I'll keep thinking on other oddballs and such and get back to you

agabr123

great, thanks! i'm also trying to look around the site for what members keep in their tanks, but i can't find anything to search for that other than taking the time to go through everyone's aquarium info, which would take HOURS.....hmm.....

pinkfloydpuffer

FYI, the link to the puffer guide is non-existant.

agabr123

oh dang, i'll have to go fix that

edit: fixed

prairielilly

This is a link from another forum that I found helpful when I was first starting out (before the days of FishLore...) I no longer agree with all the stated recommendations, but you may find some of it helpful.

Great idea btw

agabr123

thanks! it's definitely helpful in giving me some more ideas

Blub

If you need a list of all the common (and some not so common!) schooling fish under 8cm - I did this a while ago: http://www.fishlore.com/fishforum/412021-post16.html

Also, I think Black pacus and Red-tailed Catfishes need a mention on post #7. And, I'd add common plecos to post #7 with a little note saying that whilst they don';t need 300gal, they get way too big for many potential pleco buyers tanks.

And, what is an AFB doing on the 10gal suggstions? They need at least a 20gal. You could put them on the 20 gal with fish like mollies or large (8cm) tetras.

And, on 4 of the 20gals, I'd up the Hatchet count to 8, as they can be very difficult to keep in sixes for some reason.

agabr123

that's great! thanks so much!

Blub

No probs.

agabr123

interesting, i'd always read and heard that they'd be okay in a 10 kept by themselves, but i'll go ahead and change that

Blub

Where did you read that? The way I found out that info was by researching if my 12gal would have been suitable for an ABF - but it appears they need a 20gal so I got Black neons and Humpback limias for my 12gal instead.

agabr123

EDIT: lol, i can't seem to find it anywhere! maybe i'd just heard it used for 20 gallon suggestions before and transposed it somehow in my mind

Blub

Another one: What's the cherry barb doing in 'Medium/aggresive schooling fish'? They are peaceful and only get to 2" long.

agabr123

lol, 1 or 2 am really isn't the best time to work on this list

thanks for catching that!

Blub

Lol!

I'll keep checking it over for mistakes/additions.

agabr123

thanks for all your help

Blub

Not a problem...

Also add Zebra nerite snails and Maylasian Trumpet snails to small bottom feeders.

agabr123

yeah, i was thinking about just putting "snail" but it's probably best to be more specific so people don't have an apple snail the size of a grapefruit in their 10 gallons!

agabr123

why on earth have i not seen this before!?!?!??! i never realized you were writing this, lol.

The Encyclopedia Aquatica - Freshwater version

MissMTS

Hey Alex,
I thought I would give you a few reccomendations for easy to keep cichlid stocking suggestions that would be great for beginners:

20 Gallon:
1 Pair of Cockatoo Cichlids
1 BN Pleco
5 Cardinal Tetras

20 Gallon:
1 Pair of Kribs
1 BN Pleco
6 Neon Tetras

20 Gallon:
2 Convict Cichlids (M/F Pair)

29 Gallon:
2 Bolivian Rams
6 Dwarf Neon Rainbows
1 BN Pleco

29 Gallon:
2 Angels
4 Panda Cories
5 Cherry Barbs, Cardinal Tetras, or Lemon Tetras

29 Gallon:
2 Keyhole Cichlids
6 Kuhli Loaches
6 Black Skirt Tetras

55 Gallon:
1 Pair Jack Dempsey Cichlids

55 Gallon:
1 Pair Angels
2 Pairs of Bolivian Rams
10 Cardinal/Lemon Tetras
10 Panda Cories

55 Gallon:
6 Yellow Labs (2 Male, 4 Females)
12 Demasoni

55 Gallon:
6 Yellow Labs
8 Zebra Obliquidens (2 males, 6 females)

55 Gallon:
4 Yellow Labs (1 male, 3 females)
4 Red Zebras (1 male, 3 females)
4 Elongatus (1 male, 3 females)
4 Zebra Obliquidens (1 male, 3 females)

75 Gallon:
1 Oscar

agabr123

that's wonderful!!! thanks so much!

MissMTS

No problem

I also forgot to add:

20 Gallon:
1 Breeding Pair of Brichardi Cichlids

MissMTS

Haha...I thought of another one. Now that I made the first list, my brain is just on that track.

10 Gallon:
1 Pair of Borelli's Dwarf Cichlids
6 Pygme Cories

agabr123

lol, hey i'm not complaining!

MissMTS

Hey Alex,

Is there any way to add a side note to one of your stocking suggestions?

When you listed an angelfish in the 20 gallon setup, could you add a note that it must be a regular 20 gallon, not a 20 long? 20g longs are to shallow for angels

Blub

Lol that's why you always look at what it says in someone's sig!

You can link to the profile on it on your aquariunm stocking thread if you like.

agabr123

absolutely

lol, i know, right!?!?

thanks, that would be awesome!