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March 3rd, 2009
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| Would it be ok to put maybe 2 silver arowanas in a 380g? I want to get a big fish, I'm either going to make a freshwater or saltwater tank, but I want ideas. I can get a 500g or a 380g, probably the 380g. anyone have ideas?
Anyone that can help or suggest?
Last edited by sirdarksol; March 3rd, 2009 at 06:29 PM.
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March 3rd, 2009
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| POSSIBLY one, I don't think two. | |
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March 3rd, 2009
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| How many red belly pacus could i get for a 500g? | |
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March 3rd, 2009
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| Pacu are best left for professional aquariums in my personal opinion.
WHy not have other large cichlids such as:
Oscars
Jack Dempseys
Red Devils
Red Midas
Severums | |
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March 3rd, 2009
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| | Fish Mentor
| yeah I would go with what Amanda said | |
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March 3rd, 2009
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| Or:
Green Terror Cichlids
Jaguar Cichlids
Flowerhorns
Plecos
Catfish
OR
a huge African Cichlid set-up
OR
An amazon bio-tope with Discus, Angels & LOTS of tetras
Last edited by Amanda; March 3rd, 2009 at 06:31 PM.
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March 3rd, 2009
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| First of all, Darkfin, you've got to give people time to see your post. You bumped your thread after only twenty minutes during one of the most quiet times of the forum (late afternoon often only has a handful of people on, as they leave work/school and travel to home).
Second of all, what are the dimensions of the tank? Arowana need a lot of gallons but, more importantly, they need a wide, long area to swim in. They get to be around three feet long, and the length and width of the tank both need to be greater than that, or they will be uncomfortable and have issues turning around.
Depth isn't as important, since arowana typically hang out at the top of the aquarium, anyway.
A 380g tank could potentially house two pacu (again, depending on dimensions, though the pacu need more depth and less width than an arowana). Other than aquarium size, there's really nothing about them that I would consider "professional only" fish, although you should avoid sticking your hand in the tank, as their jaws are capable of breaking human bones.
Both arowana and pacu are going to need pretty heavy filtration and frequent water changes, especially if you put more than one fish in the aquarium. | |
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March 3rd, 2009
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| Quote:
Originally Posted by sirdarksol  First of all, Darkfin, you've got to give people time to see your post. You bumped your thread after only twenty minutes during one of the most quiet times of the forum (late afternoon often only has a handful of people on, as they leave work/school and travel to home).
Second of all, what are the dimensions of the tank? Arowana need a lot of gallons but, more importantly, they need a wide, long area to swim in. They get to be around three feet long, and the length and width of the tank both need to be greater than that, or they will be uncomfortable and have issues turning around.
Depth isn't as important, since arowana typically hang out at the top of the aquarium, anyway.
A 380g tank could potentially house two pacu (again, depending on dimensions, though the pacu need more depth and less width than an arowana). Other than aquarium size, there's really nothing about them that I would consider "professional only" fish, although you should avoid sticking your hand in the tank, as their jaws are capable of breaking human bones.
Both arowana and pacu are going to need pretty heavy filtration and frequent water changes, especially if you put more than one fish in the aquarium. | I said that about Pacu because of their size, but also because the more people buy them at pet stores, the more they will stock. These just don't seem like suitable aquarium fish to me. | |
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March 3rd, 2009
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Originally Posted by Amanda I said that about Pacu because of their size, but also because the more people buy them at pet stores, the more they will stock. These just don't seem like suitable aquarium fish to me. | An excellent point on the pet store thing. It's the same reason that I will not buy bettas from petsmart or petco until they stop stocking so many of them and start taking better care of them.
What I would like to see is for fish stores to only buy these fish on special order for customers who specifically request them. Alternately, if the store has a large enough tank to house unsold specimens, I would understand stocking a couple of them and leaving specific instructions (perhaps written on the tank) that these fish require 200g or more just to hold one.
Normally I would suggest strongly against either pacu or arowana, both for the reason of gigantic size. However, a 380g tank, if the dimensions are right, can house one or two of either. Because of this, I can't really tell Darkfin not to get them. | |
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March 3rd, 2009
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| personally i wouldn't go with an arowana at all or anything more than ONE red bellied pacu if you were to get one. however, IMO there are a lot more fish (i.e. the ones amanda suggested) that would be more suitable and would LOVE a huge tank like that  | |
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March 4th, 2009
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| sorry, I had to go for a little while, I thought about oscars, but... I also saw a lovely planted tank, It had huge plants, and it had 350 neon tetras, I thought that would be a little bit more pretty to look at then one silver arowana, the tank is actually tall. I am buying it from some canadian guy, It is a cylinder that goes to the top of the first story. (500g) We drilled a hole in the top of our floor to reach the top of the tank. We remodeled the bathroom so that it is a giant filtration system, and the bathroom lights are Extremely bright, and always on. Any one have any good schooling fish ideas? | |
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March 4th, 2009
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| Discus & tetras would look great in a large planted tank | |
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March 4th, 2009
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| wont the discus eat the tetras, I thought discus get a good size | |
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March 4th, 2009
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| I've seen them in tanks with neons.
Larger tetras such as Comgos, Black Skirts, etc. should be fine | |
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March 4th, 2009
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| lol, What about pirannahs, I have seen some neat schools of them, and its not illegal here, (My LFS sells right next to my house) how many could i fit in there? | |
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March 4th, 2009
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| My opinion on them is the same as arowana & pacu.
I don't think they're aquarium fish. | |
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March 4th, 2009
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| if i were you i would go with a huge species tank with every different kind of tetra that you can find, 25 neons, 25 rummynose, 25 black and 25 white skirts, 25 congo, 25 red eye or something like that you could also do danios, rasboras, etc, pretty much anything small that schools | |
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March 6th, 2009
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| i would go with HUGE community tank, Angels, Rams, Tetras, Rainbows, Plecos, Discus...the possibilties are endless 
i dont know much about larger fish but i agree with the other comments about arrowana, pacu and piranha. they arent really an aquarium fish | |
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March 6th, 2009
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| With a tank that big, you could have a great goldfish tank. It would be pretty, and great for the fish since most people only keep them in smaller tanks! Also, you wouldn't need a heater! | |
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March 6th, 2009
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| | Fish Mentor
| If you want something of a hefty size but is an aquarium fish why dont you take a look at pike cichlids and wolf cichlids | |
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March 6th, 2009
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| I think with the proper research you could put what you want in a tank that size. Too many times I hear fishlorians telling people they need a bigger tank, this is one case that you have only a few limitations. | |
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March 6th, 2009
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| My brother had pacu's that grew to 26 inches. They couldn't even turn around in his 125g. | 
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March 6th, 2009
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| 26", Really? Bet had to do somersault to turn, even that would've been difficult in 125!
btw, are both tanks cylindrical? If so, what is the diameter of these tanks? trying to figure out surface are.
Although 300/500 G is large volume of water, Arowanna and Pacu in cylindrical tank may not be ideal choices. imo. | |
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March 7th, 2009
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| I asked for dimensions at the beginning of the post, and have not heard a response yet.
Without the dimensions, we really can't give good advice on pacu or arowana (though the non-tankbuster advice has been awesome). | |
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May 28th, 2009
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Originally Posted by Amanda Pacu are best left for professional aquariums in my personal opinion.
WHy not have other large cichlids such as:
Oscars
Jack Dempseys
Red Devils
Red Midas
Severums | Yeah I agree.
If I had a 500 gallon tank that is empty I'd put in some large angels, amazon swords and then one small sized severum so then the angels and severums wont be too aggressive.. although I've seen people keep severums together with angels and they survive and live well with each other. You can try and get some parrot cichlids too they are great inhabitants. | |
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