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June 10th, 2008
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Fish Master
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Originally Posted by sirdarksol
Guorami do not have to be kept in pairs. In fact, in a smaller tank (like a 10g), 2 dwarfs, even a male/female pair, can get violent.
And Shawnie, you really shouldn't have a betta in with guorami. I'd lay a wager on the betta picking a fight at some point in its life.
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ty sir and at this point, 3 months later, everythings been fine..my community tank is totally against the rules as ive posted many times before...all of my fishies, to date, get along..not to say that one day that will change...the 55 gallon was the rescued fishies prior to knowing about all the guidelines to fish keeping...cant just get rid of them because its not normal to have them together...they are all watched and taken care of closely ...but I DO NOT reccomend this combination by any means 
edit: sorry for the hijack post ...I appologize...its about his gourami's
Last edited by Shawnie; June 10th, 2008 at 11:30 AM.
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June 10th, 2008
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Fish Helper
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yet again i agree the 10g is too small for two. i never said they have to be kept in a pair just that from my experience they are genraly sold in pairs.....oh and shawnie i had my betta in a tank with my dwarf gourami and i didn't listen when i was told that labrynth fish will fight, well my betta lost alot of one of his fins so now he has his own 10g tank. you should do the same.
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June 10th, 2008
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Fish Keeper
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thanks for all your help guys, even if you did get off topic a little. I'm thinking about getting 5 neon tetras, he seems to be getting really lonley latley, he just kind of sits at the bottom. and would 5 neons work? i think they would, but some extra advice wouldnt hurt.
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June 10th, 2008
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Fish Helper
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yeah that is abit strange as gourami as well as most labrynth fish are top dwellers. the neons should work. they are fun fish.
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June 10th, 2008
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I did see that you agreed that 10g is too small. It was the "they should be kept in pairs" that I was disagreeing with. In my opinion, it depends on the setup.
Yes, neons may make interesting tank mates.
However, a dwarf guorami sitting on the bottom would concern me for the same reason it concerns Goggles.
I would do a few water changes, make sure the little guy is getting the best food you can get your hands on (bloodworms, high quality fish food, etc...), as well as some garlic juice and vitachem (if you can get your hands on it). DGs have been falling prey to a particularly nasty viral infection recently. There's no medicine to treat it, but it may be that a fish given healthy circumstances (i.e. water quality and food) stands a chance of fighting the infection itself.
I am not saying that this is what your guorami has. I don't know of any way of identifying the disease until it's nearly killed the fish. That's why I'm suggesting proactive treatment. Plus, if it's just that your fish is feeling a bit down, this might perk him up.
I do not know if this disease can affect other fish.
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June 10th, 2008
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Fish Keeper
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M/F dwarf gouramis should be kept in pairs only if you're planning to breed them, and are set up for this. Extra tanks needed to raise fry and to remove the female if necessary since the male may seriously harass and even kill her if she's not ready to breed. Plus, most petstores don't even sell females.
sirdarksol, if you're referring to iridovirus, it does seem to affect other fish, although how many other species is not known at the moment. This is why I suggested a long quarantine for the DG. I know it's boring to wait to get other fish, but not nearly as bad as watching everything in the tank die because you didn't want to bother with QT. 
butters, I hope your little gourami will be fine!! |
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June 10th, 2008
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Fish Keeper
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thanks guys! I just got done doing about a 30-40% water change and I re-decorated to see if he was just bored. when I put him back in, he just went behind the same thing he was behind all day, and just sat there... I hope he isnt sick or anything. but my shrimp seemed to love the re-decorating, they were swimming around like crazy! But i hope he will make it, I dont want to get a new one. |
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June 10th, 2008
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Fish Helper
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Barbrella
M/F dwarf gouramis should be kept in pairs only if you're planning to breed them, and are set up for this. Extra tanks needed to raise fry and to remove the female if necessary since the male may seriously harass and even kill her if she's not ready to breed. Plus, most petstores don't even sell females.
sirdarksol, if you're referring to iridovirus, it does seem to affect other fish, although how many other species is not known at the moment. This is why I suggested a long quarantine for the DG. I know it's boring to wait to get other fish, but not nearly as bad as watching everything in the tank die because you didn't want to bother with QT.
butters, I hope your little gourami will be fine!! |
here i9n england nearly all pet stores sell females. |
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June 10th, 2008
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Fish Keeper
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well, ive never ever seen a female gourami in the states...EVER!
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June 10th, 2008
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Someone said that their LFS wouldn't carry dwarf guorami because "they're ugly." Lots of Americans are big on colors and flash (I see it in martial arts as well as in fishkeeping), so I can see that females wouldn't sell as well as males. I know that female guppies and female bettas tend to not sell as well as the males.
Thanks, Barbrella. Iridovirus is precisely what I'm referring to, and it's good to know that it can species hop.
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June 10th, 2008
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Fish Keeper
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he just went behind the same thing he was behind all day, and just sat there...
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Keep an eye on him. That's all mine did last week for the 5 days I had him before he died.
Is yours eating anything?
It's good you haven't put any other fish in with him. |
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June 10th, 2008
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Fish Keeper
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he hasnt eaten anything! i just put up a new post about that under gouramis. I think he has that new disease thing going around with DGs, Its really kind of upsetting because I really like him |
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June 10th, 2008
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Fish Bum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Butters
he hasnt eaten anything! i just put up a new post about that under gouramis. I think he has that new disease thing going around with DGs, Its really kind of upsetting because I really like him |
i'm sorry to hear about your fish, mate. hope everything is alright. I was thinking about putting a DG in my 10g that just finished its cycle and now i am starting to second guess that decision. anybody got a link or news about this disease and stuff thats going around? |
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June 10th, 2008
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Fish Keeper
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Mine totally refused any and all food as well, and acted terrified and hid. By day 5, he was staying on the bottom, then started twitching and shaking, then went onto his side and died. Poor little guy.
Here's the link I posted previously with some information on this disease. You can also google "iridovirus dwarf gourami" for more.
http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/FA035 |
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June 11th, 2008
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Fish Helper
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reading all this i think i may have had the same problem iv'e been through two males and one female, does this thing affect the swim bladder coz mine stoped eating thenin the end they were swimming on their sides until they died over night, this was about a month ago. in the end i gave up on them.
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June 11th, 2008
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Fish Keeper
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this really sucks i really liked him even if i only had him for a while. He isnt eating anything and hes starting to swim sideways, his belly is getting really big too, so... im not going to get another one so i dont have to go through this again. now i gotta decide what new fish i want. |
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June 11th, 2008
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I'm so sorry, Butters.
From the sound of it, there's not much you can do.
This virus situation is an issue that needs attention. I'm off to start another thread. If those of you who have had issues with this would kindly post your problems in it, I would really appreciate it.
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