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March 20th, 2008
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Stocking ? and tank dimensions.
I am STILL undecided between a 20g and a 20g long.
My question has to do with the difference in stocking.
Following the 1" per gallon rule, since they both hold the same amount of water, but being different dimensions, how does this effect stocking?
Examples would be helpful.
I hope this makes sense.
My tank now: 10g 4x serpea, 4x neons (slightly overstocked, regular water changes keep my water parameters at 0,0,10 nitrate)
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March 20th, 2008
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Long fish tanks will allow you to have more fish/types that stay around the bottom. Taller tanks allow for more fish/types that are top and mid dwellers.
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March 20th, 2008
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Hi!
Really, it's not just the ammount of oxygene but the ammount of waste that builds up. In the long you'd be able to have no more fish than the kit - but in a 20gal tall you could only fit as many fish as would fit in a 10gal.
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March 20th, 2008
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a major factor is the surface area of the water. a greater surface area means more oxygenation, which theoretically would mean that it's able to sustain more life. however... there are plenty of fish that need height to a tank. angels being one of them, due to their tall body shape. without this, they'll become deformed. i've seen angels at a petstore that looked almost like a different fish altogether with their dramatically stunted fins. it was really sad.
so, if you're still at a loss for how to decide, i'd suggest going over a list of likely residents... and let that help you decide. if you only want a bunch of smaller tetras, for example... i'd get the long - they'll make more use of the extra length for swimming, imo... plus the surface area is good for them.
edit - i also have to disagree with hatchet (sorry). the amount of waste will be the same in either one (if the bio-load were the same)... and will still need to be dealt with accordingly.
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March 20th, 2008
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Hi!
Serene - I didn't say the amount of waste would be different - I said you could keep as many fish in the long as you could the regular - the ammount of waste will still be the same regardless of oxygenation. In a tall tank though, because there's less oxygene you can't keep as many fish as you could in a normal tank.
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March 20th, 2008
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The plan is to move my 4 serpae and 4 neons into a 20g. They school, shoal....whatever lol they hang nicely in their individual groups.
That leaves me with with about 8" to play with.
Can I go with 4 of another type of schooling small fish?
Or if I go with 'loners' that would give me a wider variety....any suggestions?
Last edited by Lucy; March 20th, 2008 at 03:37 PM.
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March 20th, 2008
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sorry, guess i'm misunderstanding
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the ammount of waste that builds up.
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that part... |
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March 20th, 2008
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Originally Posted by SereneReyn
sorry, guess i'm misunderstanding that part...
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Hi!
Badly worded by me, missread by you.
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March 20th, 2008
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lucy - i think if it were me i might go with a few cleaner-crew types... some catfish or loaches or maybe even shrimp?
or, a few bosemani rainbows might be a nice addition...
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March 20th, 2008
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Originally Posted by SereneReyn
lucy - i think if it were me i might go with a few cleaner-crew types... some catfish or loaches or maybe even shrimp?
or, a few bosemani rainbows might be a nice addition...
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Corydoras!!!! Love the species. They are so funny, and so active. They have great 'mob-type' personalities. |
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March 20th, 2008
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Fish Helper
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How about Cherry Barbs?
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March 20th, 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SereneReyn
a few bosemani rainbows might be a nice addition...
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Would they eat my neons?
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Originally Posted by FL CommunityFans
Corydoras!!!!
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Corys are cute. I think I'd like them for clean up, but I'd need to get more than 1 right?
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Originally Posted by BoSox Fan7
How about Cherry Barbs?
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They're pretty.
I've been looking at all kinds of fish and appreciate everyones input. Feel free to keep the suggestions coming.
Would Platies work with my tetras? |
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March 21st, 2008
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by FL CommunityFans View Post
Corydoras!!!!
Corys are cute. I think I'd like them for clean up, but I'd need to get more than 1 right?
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Eh, they say you need 3, but personally I think 1 is fine, if that's all you can fit. They get the job done and take up little space.. not too many botom feeders I've seen that come in such small size. |
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March 21st, 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FL CommunityFans
Eh, they say you need 3, but personally I think 1 is fine, if that's all you can fit. They get the job done and take up little space.. not too many botom feeders I've seen that come in such small size.
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Hi!
My experience with all types of corys tells me you can't keep corys in 1's, or over a gravel substrate and not expect problems. My expensive Sterba's corys who I HATE (They are expensive, don't do anything even though I bought 5 to start of with, even on smooth gravel their barbels get worn down and as they're so big I can really wait till they're full grow plant uprooters! Worst of all my family won't let me get rid of them... I could get another pleco, and some Otos which would do my planted tank a great favour!) are wearing their barbels down on even very smooth gravel. They also don't do anything - but wear down their barbels and die. I'm hoping I'm going to be allowed to exchange them for a Clown pleco and some 3-4 Otos soon. Lol, my BN has the entertainment value of some other people's corys - even 'winking' at me like the corys do! They might start doing stuff when I have more plant cover, and black sand substrate though. I just hope they don't send my plants flying! Really, for bottom feeders you want a BN or 2 if you ask me - great algae eating, extreme personality, great activity levels and really quirky habits!
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March 21st, 2008
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nah, rainbows wouldn't eat your neons... i don't think they get big enough (3" max... would be hard to eat a fish half your size, imo).
i also think that cories CAN do just fine alone. i suppose it could depend on the cory itself, but i've seen them kept solo many many times - they seemed perfectly content.
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March 22nd, 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SereneReyn
i also think that cories CAN do just fine alone. i suppose it could depend on the cory itself, but i've seen them kept solo many many times - they seemed perfectly content.
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Hi!
Bronze corys can stand being alone, but I wouldn't try it. Every cory I've ever had alone perished.
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March 22nd, 2008
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I've been looking at the different corys on PlanetCatfish, there are so many different kinds, I had no idea.
I'm going to the store today to see what kind they carry and look them up.
I saw a FREE 55g full set up on Craigs List, but I when I called, it was gone already.
But I did score a 20g Long for free. The lady said they used it for fish, but when I went to get it, it only had a screen top, so I think she lied. So I have to buy a lid.
I have a 100 watt heater, is big enough for this type tank?
I also have a 5-15 aqua-tech filter running in a 5g that I will move (lots of good bacteria in that), if I get another and run both, is that enough filtration?
I'm trying to keep costs down. |
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March 22nd, 2008
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If she was old school, she may not have been lying. We used to keep a mesh screen over out tanks back in the day. Hoods and canopies were 'new age' back then ;p So was proper lighting! The hobby has come a long way since then.
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