rainman

i have a 30g tank, I plan on putting in 6 zebra danio's six bloodfin tetras, one blue gaurami, mabye one angel fish and some oto cats? anything wrong with this? Any suggestion?

Allie

The amount of fish could work. I'm not sure how aggressive bloodfin tetras are. If they aren't then they could all go together.
You have few options with a 30g...cichlids are fun fish to have too.

COBettaCouple

sometimes gourami & angels can get testy with each other, but they can get along too so i'd just keep an eye on them.

Isabella

If I were you, I'd get either 2 Angelfish or 2 Gouramis, instead of 1 Angel and 1 Gourami. I mean, maybe they'd get along, but I'd personally recommend not mixing the two species. Otherwise, no problems with 6 Zebra Danios, 6 Bloodfin Tetras, and a few Otos. Good planning

capekate

Isabella, I agree with you, I think if it were me I would be hesitant about adding gourami's and angels together. I know how testy they both can get.

~ kate
ps. dont you just loooove these new smilies.. hehehe

rainman

thankyou everyon i think i will go with two gaurami's.

pistorta

Blue gouramis can grow large. I would recommend the dwarf gouramis for that size tank. In addition, I think I would add an angel to give you two, but from my experience, stay away from small odd numbers with regard to the angels.

rainman

the only thing i am worried about is that if i get two of the gaurami's or angles they might become agressive and territorial when the pair up

capekate

I would recommend you going with either angelfish or dwarf gourami. I wouldnt mix the two together if it were my tank.
~ kate

pistorta

I currently have 8 angels and one dwarf gourami in the same tank. They do not bother one another. In my experience, you are more likely to have problems between the gouramis themselves than with the angelfish. All fish have different personalities, so this is not to say the same would apply to you. You may see a pecking order develop, but not between the two species. I personally woudn't hesitate to bring the numbers to 2 and 2.

Isabella

Pistorta, I am sorry to disagree, but I really wouldn't mix Gouramis with Angels.

swords3711

angels and gourmami are not good fish. they are very touchy and not super active
tets are good small colorful fish for a 30g I have a 35 and had a large school of neon and glowlight tets

COBettaCouple

angels & gourami coexisting peacefully seems to be the exception, rather than the rule, from all the stories i've read.

pistorta

Isabella - personal experience has ALWAYS LED me to keeping these two completely different species together in a variety of sized tanks. I believe aquarium setup, their individual personalities and the number being kept are the determining factors in keeping them together. In my opinion, any potential problems that may arise between these two groups are no different than those between any other.

Isabella

Pistorta, I respect your opinion and your experience. I am only advising what is a general opinion here. Generally, I hear and read that it's not the best idea to mix Gouramis with Angels. I've never had Gouramis but I've had Angelfish for over 3 years. I've seen Gouramis and how they behave in others' tanks. I've observed Angels for over 3 years. Based on the general opinion, and on my personal knowledge of Angelfish, I PERSONALLY would not recommend mixing these two species together. That is all I have said, I didn't say they'll 100% fight if they are mixed. But, there certainly is a signifcant risk that they may very well fight if mixed. What Rainman will do is totally up to him. I won't be choosing fish for him. I am only giving him what I think to be my honest and good-willed avdice. What he does, based on this advice, is up to him. If you've had positive experiences with keeping Angelfish and Gouramis together, then I am very happy for you. Rainman may mix the two species based on your advice, and they may do very well. But just so he knows - he shouldn't be surprised or disappointed if aggression develops.

If he gets a mated pair of Gouramis or Angels, I am 99.9% sure there will be aggression in his tank - and that is based on my personal experience. Sure, if you have a large enough tank that is not overstocked and that has loads of hiding spots (so that if there is aggression, the fish have the space to run away and hiding spots to hide), then you certainly can minimize the risks of aggression. All I am saying is that any person indending to mix Gouramuis with Angels should definitely prepare for potential fighting.

Once again, I respect your opinion very much, but I have to disagree once again as well. The problems that may develop between fish such as Angels and Gouramis can be very different from problems between, say, Angels and Neon Tetras (Neons being "any other fish"), or, say, between Gouramis and Neon Tetras. Angelfish, for example, won't see Neon Tetras as big a threat to them as the Gouramis are. Neon Tetras - the "any other fish" - are much smaller than Gouramis and much more peaceful than Gouramis. Therefore, Angels do not see them as a serious threat and are not aggressive towards them (all this being taken from personal experience). But Gouramis - being as large as Angelfish themselves and as territorial and Angels themselves - certainly do pose a serious threat to Angels, in the Angels' eyes. Therefore, once again, Angels can very easily get aggresive towards the Gouramis, and the other way around.

Anyway, if Rainman wishes to mix the 2 species, then I certainly wish him all the best with them. I hope they won't be aggressive towards each other in his experience. Though I can't guarantee this, as I've mentioned before.

pistorta

Isabella - I too, dispense advise based on MY opinion derived from MY personal experience. Forums, such as this, serve as a venue to share these experiences and/or knowledge with others to help solve, prevent and better the aquarium keeping hobby. With this in mind, I do not and will not disagree with your post(s) as I understand this is your perception based on your own experience.

Back on topic...as I stated in a previous post, there are a lot of factors to consider when keeping these or any other fish together. An improper "balance" could result in the problems you mention. I do not disagree that these two species may fight, but based solely on my experience, it is a compatibility worth considering and I would not discourage others from attempting it.

In my error, my unclarified comment regarding potential problems arising between these two groups being no different than those between any other, was intended to be vague. Big fish for example, will eat small fish.

Isabella

Pistorta, lol, all right