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Old August 20th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
Plant Dying

I have a plant in my ten gallon tank that is dying. No other plant seems to have this problem. I do not know the type of plant so I cannot do some research on it. The leaves wither and turn all slugish. I hope you guys can help because plants cost money.

Last edited by Time; August 28th, 2009 at 01:18 AM.
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Old August 20th, 2009  
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It would help the members if you posted a pic of it.
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Old August 20th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
Here are some pics:
http://www.fishlore.com/fishforum/at...1&d=1250748680

The leaf hanging over the plant is part of the dying plant but he plant the leaf is hanging over is fine. Don't worry about that one.
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Old August 20th, 2009  
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Do you use any plant fertilizers? Or do you have any bubbles putting in oxygen into the tank? Plant Fertilizers are useful definitely and don't put in any air stone diffusers that produce bubbles..
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Old August 20th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
My filter gives off some bubbles. I used to have a bio filter and the plants were covering it but i took it out because of its size. So I don't have any air stoned but the plant is right under the waterfall from the filter. Should I move it?

Last edited by Time; August 20th, 2009 at 09:32 PM.
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Old August 20th, 2009  
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My filter gives off some bubbles. I used to have a bio filter and the plants were covering it but i took it out because of its size. So I don't have any air stoned but the plant is right under the waterfall from the filter. Should I move it?
Yes, that should help. Also, do you use Incandescent or Fluorescent light bulbs?? If you have Incandescent that will be the main problem. If you have a fluorescent light bulb, then that is a lot better than a fluorescent light bulb

Good luck!

Neji
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Old August 20th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
A florescent light bulb is a lot better than a florescent light bulb OKay I guess that means I am good. Yeah I noticed that the plants there are sort of withering I will move them to a more appropriate spot. And it is only the plants there.
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Old August 20th, 2009  
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Oh alright

Do you use any fertilizers?? Maybe your plants have already absorbed all of the phosphate, and the other nutrients in your 10 gallon tank.
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Old August 20th, 2009  
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I don't use fertilizers. If I have plants do I have to change less water? I don't use plant fertilizers. Every other plant is just fine except for the ones under the filter water fall.
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Old August 20th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
Some of the other plants(my fish just wanted to come out in all of them)

http://www.fishlore.com/fishforum/at...1&d=1250822454
Lol you can see the background I drew in image #2 and my computer mouse in image #4. Yeah my computer desk is large enough to fit a ten gallon tank so I consider myself to be the luckiest person alive.
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Old August 20th, 2009  
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Yes, that should help. Also, do you use Incandescent or Fluorescent light bulbs?? If you have Incandescent that will be the main problem. If you have a fluorescent light bulb, then that is a lot better than a fluorescent light bulb

Good luck!

Neji
I think Neji meant, a fluorescent light bulb is a lot better than an incandescent light bulb.
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Old August 20th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
Also the plant looks like elodea to me.. A great plant for oxygenating the water.
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Old August 20th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
I guess I made a good choice of plants. I do use florescent. I moved the plants so that none are in the way of the water fall I hope my plant gets better.

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Old August 26th, 2009  
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I guess I made a good choice of plants. I do use florescent. I moved the plants so that none are in the way of the water fall I hope my plant gets better.
Well Time Keeper, you can let us know when the time is right
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Old August 26th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
My plant just has holes in it now I wonder what it is? I think the roots rotted or something.
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Old August 26th, 2009  
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It is very tough to get an ID on the plant from the pics. Have you been to www.plantgeek.net ? There you can look in plant guide....then narrow down to stem plants. If you can get an ID it would be very helpful in figuring out the problem. Are the green stems with broader leaf the same plant as the dying one? The one that is dying looks like it has a narrow almost needle like leaf and the green ones look like the have a broader leaf. If they arent the same plant (when healthy) you may have blood stargrass. If they are the same I cant tell if it is Anacharis or other.
Usually holes in the leaves would indicate a potassium deficiency but it may just be that the leaves are decaying and forming holes.
Sorry I cant of more help but it could be a million things causing the problem and without plant ID its tough.
Some things that come to mind...lack of Co2, nutrient deficiency, too hot or cold water for plant type, buried to deep can cause probs for some plants, lighting not enough or too much (again depends on the plant)
If you ID let us know and we may narrow it down.
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Old August 27th, 2009  
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Here are some pics:
http://www.fishlore.com/fishforum/at...1&d=1250748680

The leaf hanging over the plant is part of the dying plant but he plant the leaf is hanging over is fine. Don't worry about that one.
I will try to get the plants name at the pet store. I don't think I have the right conditions to keep that plant or maybe started off bad. The plant that is dying is the first pics I posted above. I don't think I have the necessary conditions to keep that plant. I should have researched before getting it.

Last edited by Time; August 27th, 2009 at 01:28 AM.
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Old August 27th, 2009  
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My plant just has holes in it now I wonder what it is? I think the roots rotted or something.
Possibly. If they do, I'm sorry. Although you can always buy newer ones Like easy growing plants such as Anacharis, or Java Ferns, or maybe a few Cabombas. You can try getting in small Amazon Swords too, but they will grow big. Depending on how much fertilizer you give to them. Mine are producing runners now and they are about 30 cm tall! I've already got some of the smaller Amazon Swords from the big main ones already the smaller ones are also flourishing. Mainly because I've been fertilizing my plants twice a week.

I hope your plants don't die! Although if they do, you can try some of the plants I said

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Old August 27th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
That is the only dying plant I have the other ones are better and growing a lot. How can I get more plants out of one?
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Old August 29th, 2009  
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Hmm, if that is the only plant that seems to be the one dying then it could just be that the plant is getting old. When people buy plants from the pet stores, you never know how old they are. Most plants do live long, and others don't have a super long life span. It usually depends on what type of water you put into your tank, and if you ever use fertilizer.

C02 is pretty much what plants like and need the most, but since you have a small tank. You don't really need any C02. Tap water even though it has been treated and poured into the tank has C02 in it. Although the plants will use it up in one day. Most plants if you use RO water, the plants will adapt to low level C02 because water that doesn't have any C02 bubbles being injected into the water still has a very little amount of C02. The plants will learn to adapt to it, but since people do weekly water changes along with a gravel wash (siphon) and then some or most people use tap water for the tank, and then the plants will know that a lot more C02 has been added into the water, and then they just start absorbing all of that C02. Then after the large amounts of C02 is done being absorbed by the plants, then they will have to learn to adapt into low level C02 again.

So it's a constant stress for them. Plants in low light will be able to be fine, but plants in tanks that have a lot higher wattage won't be able to adapt very easily if you know what I mean.

Just like someone said in a different thread, newly introduced plants into a low light aquarium setup will take about a week before they show signs of needing to be fertilized, but plants in higher wattage light will show quicker signs of needing to be fertilized.
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Old August 29th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
Thanks. I will still try my luck with a different plant. You get a free fish if you buy plants from them. I will choose neon tetra and guppy if I get two plants.
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Old August 30th, 2009  
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Wow! I love that deal your pet store has I hope you have soft water for your Neon tetras My neons thrive in soft water, but in hard water.. they don't like it.
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Old August 30th, 2009  
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The deal I got for my 10 gallon included free fish and plants and my 10 gallon turtle tank was free although I will have to upgrade shortly because they are getting big. I only had to spend 60 dallors on my setup. Is that okay for a 10 gallon planted? All my inhabitants were pretty much free.
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