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Old January 3rd, 2008  
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Java Ferns

Hi All, I've been having a heck of a time keeping java ferns. I was told they were very easy to grow but I've experienced anything but that. I had them in a 10g tank and found that they kept getting covered in algae which I assume prevented them from growing but I'm not sure. I recently moved everything to a 20g tank and I'm hoping for a better outcome. Any suggestions?

Last edited by Chief_waterchanger; January 3rd, 2008 at 09:32 PM. Reason: Foul language
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Old January 3rd, 2008  
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Algae covering a plant does not inhibit its growth, other than taking its nutrients and affecting how much light it receives. You can use a set of tweezers to pull the algae off, and look into what you have an abundance of in the tank to cause the algae growth. Usually it is a phosphate abundance due to overfeeding, othertimes people leave their lights on too long each day, there are more knowledgeable plant folks on here than I, though, so they should get along here shortly.

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Old January 3rd, 2008  
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Oops sorry didn't mean to curse. Since you mentioned light. How long should they be on for typically?
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Old January 3rd, 2008  
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Java ferns are a low light slow grower and sometimes will get algae covered due to too much light and more nutrients than they can use. Heres a profile for you
http://www.plantgeek.net/plantguide_viewer.php?id=161
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Old January 3rd, 2008  
Fish Keeper
 
My Javas get algae on them in my 5 gal tanks, but the ones in my 20 gal are algae-free. Could be because they're further from the light?

Whatever, but they're doing just fine!
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Old January 3rd, 2008  
Fish Keeper
 
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Since you mentioned light. How long should they be on for typically?
10-12 hours a day. Most of us use some type of timer (I like the Coralife power strips with the built-in timers: http://www.drsfostersmith.com/produc...r%20strip&Np=1). One bit of advice I've seen here and elsewhere is to have the lights on for a few hours, off for an hour or two, then on for the balance of the 10-12 hours. The off period in the middle of the day disrupts the life cycle of the algae, and the fish don't care, since there's usually enough ambient light in the room (to them, the sun went behind a cloud, I guess ).

Just an FYI, but I saw what I thought was some type of hair algae growing on the end of one of the longer leaves on my Java Fern, and I was ready to trim off the leaf to get rid of it, when I realized there were new leaves growing out of that spot. The fern was forming a new rhizome at the end of the leaf, and what I thought was algae was roots reaching down to latch onto something (in this case, a rock near the driftwood). They're almost there, so I'm going to leave it be for a while until they anchor to the rock, and then trim off the rest of the leaf connecting the new rhizome to the mother plant.

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Old January 3rd, 2008  
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I would also like to point out that Java Fern doesn't like its roots buried in the gravel. It attaches to drift wood really well, and will do fine like that. I also float some in tanks with fry, along with Java moss....It does fine in the lowest of light conditions. Though in any condition I have ever had it, leaves do tend to die, sometimes forming those plantlets on the end, so I wonder about leaving them on. Decaying plant matter does contribute to problems with water condition.
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Old January 3rd, 2008  
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Decaying plant matter does contribute to problems with water condition.
True, but if it's only a couple of leaves, and the tank is big enough, the impact will be quite small compared to the benefit of new growth.
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