Mike

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choochiegirl

Lost a guppy today she seemed to be ok but was swimming at th etop a lot last night, found er dea this am. can't locate one of the cory's but they are the same colour as the gravel so it could be hiding.

Ammonia went to 2, nitrites & nitrates, still 0 so did a WC again

COBettaCouple

it definitely sounds like the tank is going thru a cycle. If it were our tank, I'd change as much water as i could and treat all water with both prime and novaqua+, and give daily doses of vitachem. You could also consider http://www.drsfostersmith.com/Produc...&N=2004+113805 to replace your A/C in the filter bags.

armadillo

Dave, why both Prime and NovAqua? Am curious, perhaps that's something I should/could do too?

COBettaCouple

Just like taking out extra insurance.. we get the toxins control with prime and the slime coat help with NovAqua+. Not exactly necessary, but just a habit I've gotten into.

choochiegirl

still can't find one of the cory's i have looked everywhere, in the plants, under the decos, in the bubble stream, I have no idea where it could be

I'm not sure if I can get NovAqua+ here, but will run to the lfs and see, is there maybe another to look at just in case I can't find it? I will grab the vitamins tho if I can get them

Luniyn

Prime adds slime coat already. The only thing that NovAqua+ says it has that Prime doesn't is "Provides Health Aids, Including Immunizers and Vitamins" which if you are already using Vitachem you probably have those covered and then some. Like you said, not really necessary but certainly doesn't hurt.

COBettaCouple

yea, i just put it in all the jugs of treated water so that even water that doesn't get vitachem has something at least.

choochiegirl

well i found my missing cory i think and my ammonia source, i just did a 25% change since it keeps my filter wet and it's easier than doing a 50% every 2 days. There was what looked like a blob of mucous hanging inside one of the plants in the back. it was fish size but had no real shape except a blob of goo. The siphon sucked it up and it pretty much fell apart. I'm not sure it was my fish, but the colour was right, but no bones, maybe cory's are different. So that's 2 fish in 2 days again. I have 2 guppies, 1 cory and 3 tetras left. Funny thing, I've been told the tetras aren't very hardy, these ones sure are.

Now will the loss of 2 fish really mess with my bioload or leave it as-is till it settles. I tested my water before i did my change, ammonia was still at 1.0 and nitrites was 0 but has a slight purple tinge, so maybe it's now moving along.

COBettaCouple

aww.. we're sorry that you lost the little guy. we'd just leave the tank as it is and let things settle. hopefully it will re-cycle quickly.

choochiegirl

lost another guppy now, down to 1 guppy, 1 cory and my 3 tetras. levels are not changing

It's still ammonia 1.0 and no nitrites or nitrates *growl*

armadillo

Oh noooo. And you're using SeaChem Prime as water conditionner and doing 1/2 water changes every day? Your fish should make it through in these conditions.

COBettaCouple

what symptoms did this last guppy show? something else might be going on in the tank.

choochiegirl

Funny thing is, she had no real symptoms. She swam fine ate fine, then did not go after the flakes last night which i have seen them do before so it didn't worry me, then she was dead this am. When i pulled her out, she looked fine, nothing on her so i am clueless

I am still using the prime when I treat. When I change water I don't even bother turning off the filter now, It stays completely wet if I do that and I'm not willing to lose more bacteria. I'm thinking I will remove the seeded gravel packet I have in there, maybe it introduced something .

as well i noticed this morning the back wall had greenish brown spots. I have diatoms on my plants and decos but no algae that I could see. This stuff looks odd, it is in spots on the glass, like a Dalmatian dog and only in a small area

COBettaCouple

it's definitely a mystery. those spots sound like the start of algae.

sgould

Sounds like diatoms. I had it in spots on the side of my tank, on my plants, on the decor, etc. BN pleco took care of all that for me!

choochiegirl

i dunno what it is, i did another change tonight, got rid of the seeded gravel, rinsed my AC holder in discarded tank water.

Went to the LFS and no vitamins that I can see anywhere, I will try another one tomorrow and see what they have

armadillo

I have that too. I think it's diatoms.