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September 23rd, 2009
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Now that the tank is set up I ordered some new angels from a breeder. Got them today 1 1/2 days after shipping. Acclimated them and put them in the quarentine tank and they seem very lively, eating and checking everything out. I noticed that 2 of them have a bit of red along the base of their top fins. There is no redness on any of the other fins though, just the top. Could this be caused by stress from the journey or do I have a problem starting? I ordered 10 but the breeder sent 3 extras along so I have 13 of them now in the quarentine tank. Most of them are around quarter size or smaller but there are 3 that are much larger than I expected, more than half dollar size. The quarentine is only 20 gallons, how long should I keep them in this little tank for quarentine and how quickly is the ammonia going to build up? I tried to upload some pics but I couldn't. I just got a new laptop with Vista and I am pretty sure it is my laptop that won't upload them. If there is any other info that would be helpful let me know!
Last edited by critter_fritter79; September 23rd, 2009 at 11:58 PM.
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September 24th, 2009
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| Hello CritterFritter. Congrats on the new arrivals. I would suggest keeping them in quarantine for at least 2 weeks. Keep an eye on your water perimeters.
Try resizing your photos. Prior to Fish Lore site going down the last time, the site would resize the photos for you but that doesn't happen now. Here is a link you may find helpful for resizing. Free Online Picture Resizer - Crop and Resize photos, images, or pictures online for FREE!
Best wishes!
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September 24th, 2009
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| Here are some pics of my new babies! I am definately not a photographer but I did my best. I wasn't able to get a good pic of the redness on the top fins though. | |
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September 24th, 2009
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| here are some more... | |
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September 24th, 2009
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| last 2...had to try the top view!  I love the sand in here!! | |
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September 24th, 2009
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| Oh, my goodness! they're beautiful. Congratulations! I love the 1st sand picture. The angel's coming up to say hi. that's just precious! | |
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September 24th, 2009
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| Quote:
Originally Posted by critter_fritter79  Now that the tank is set up I ordered some new angels from a breeder. Got them today 1 1/2 days after shipping. Acclimated them and put them in the quarentine tank and they seem very lively, eating and checking everything out. I noticed that 2 of them have a bit of red along the base of their top fins. There is no redness on any of the other fins though, just the top. Could this be caused by stress from the journey or do I have a problem starting? I ordered 10 but the breeder sent 3 extras along so I have 13 of them now in the quarentine tank. Most of them are around quarter size or smaller but there are 3 that are much larger than I expected, more than half dollar size. The quarentine is only 20 gallons, how long should I keep them in this little tank for quarentine and how quickly is the ammonia going to build up? I tried to upload some pics but I couldn't. I just got a new laptop with Vista and I am pretty sure it is my laptop that won't upload them. If there is any other info that would be helpful let me know! | great looking bunch of angels ...but although QT is best for new fish, 13 angels in a 20 gal tank is going to have major issues..between the ammonia and the fighting, stress and ICH might be totally taking it over.....the red fins could be their breed and ammonia from transportation ... what size tank are 13 angels going into? i can tell from the pics you have both sexes and they are going to have major wars once they pair up... | |
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September 24th, 2009
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| I am doing 2x daily water changes but you are right, I am having trouble with ammonia and nitrites. They are going in the 2nd 75 gallon tank...oscars are in the first, but I have a bigger tank in layaway for the oscars and also a 55 here that is inthe process of getting set up. When I finish getting it paid for and set up both , the oscars will be in the biggest with the angels spread out between 2 75 gallon and a 55 gallon tank. The second 75 has the one surviving angel from the last batch...the bleach fiasco.. and another adoptee plus a pleco. I was afraid to put all these in there yet. They seem very healthy but I don'twant to throw the 75 into a mini-cycle or something else like that. Should I keep the new ones in the 20 or start moving them to the big tank a couple a day at a time? | |
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September 25th, 2009
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| I went ahead and moved them first thing this morning because I changed the water about 70% before I went to bed at 11 or so and by 7 in the morning the ammonia and nitrites were out of this world. As of this evening, the test kit is showing no ammonia and no nitrites in the big tank but nitrates are high I think. I am going to do a 50% water change and see if that helps. How high can nitrate levels be and still be safe?? | |
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September 26th, 2009
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| for angels, and developing finnage and such, id keep under 15 or so....having so many fish for that tank is just going to run you ragged  | |
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September 26th, 2009
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| definately is! One of the LFS here offered me a 120 at 25% off. I am going to have to upgrade i just can't decide whether to get another bigger tank or if I should get several smaller tanks instead. I was wanting to wait until they pair up and then put the pairs in their own tanks but I am afraid that even with them in the 75 I am looking at daily water changes. I am working with my brother on a "shelf" that will hold several 30gallon or so tanks.... definately have some ideas in the works and I have to admit even when I am running ragged with them I have a huge grin on my face. I love my angels! | |
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September 27th, 2009
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| Hello!
One question, is that a paroon shark in the first pic? under the angel? if so, i would try to find him a good home. He will most likely prey on your angels.
Beautiful babies btw! | |
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September 27th, 2009
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| Good morning CritterFritter. It's been my experience that it's easier to maintain larger tanks than smaller ones. I vote for the large tank! 
Best of luck.
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September 27th, 2009
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| the other fish in the pic is an irridescent shark a well meaning friend adopted. She gave it to me when her dog knocked over her tank and I am just keeping him for a few more days until I can take him to the lfs that I really like so they can adopt him out. I definately am not set up for that one! | |
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