skippi

Ok i am sooooo excited all of what to do just left my brain so I need some help. Cleo nad gizmo finally got it right and I now have a whole lotta eggs in the tank. Gizmo decided to fertilize instead of having cavier.. What do I need to do now?? I want to try to let the parents raise the eggs so don't know what to do.. am nervious don't want to do something wrong either. So far neither one of the parents has eaten the eaggs. they are standing guard against the snails. No other fish are in the tank. What do I do guys?? please help me. Do I change water? or leave it?? do I add anything to the water like that blue stuff people talk about?? oh god this is what I wanted to happen and now am having total brain fart. I hope they survive cause the parents are my leopard and marble fish. they are going to be sooo cute.... Any help here would be awesome.

Thanks
Heidi

Butterfly

What else is in the tank? Continue to do water changes. If theres nothing else in the tank just sit back and watch them wiggle and free swim
Carol

skippi

I got no eggs... most didn't get fertilized and what did the snails attacked last night. I really hate snails.... I guess we will need to put a couple loaches in there to clean house before the next batch of eggs arrive... this sucks..

Snails are going to die!!!! mmuuaahhhhhhhaahhaahhaahhaaa

Heidi

Isabella

Well ... don't worry, you eventually WILL have the babies, it's just a matter of time My angels at first ate the eggs, then when the eggs were left, most of them were not fertilized successfully and turned white, and then ... voila (!!!) ... they made it It takes time and it WILL eventually happen. All you need is a mated pair I suggest that next time the angels are completely alone in that tank, no algae eaters or snails - it's safer this way. And as Carol has said, just keep the water clean and watch the parents raise their own if they will want to raise them. I personally had to remove the eggs and raise them myself - so I had to be doing 50% daily water changes for the first 2 months of their lives. It was a lot of work, but it was SO WORTH it

skippi

Going to work on de-snailing the tank. Also got a piece of slate rock for them to use ( hopefully) also got a sponge for the filter so no babies get sucked in. I hope this will help. Will let you know what happens..

Heidi

Butterfly

Keep us posted
Carol

skippi

Well that batch of eggs went down the drain. all turned white. Not even 2 weeks later they did it again and laid more eggs but alas all turned white. Could Gizmo be unfertile this is like the 4th batch of eggs now that have either been eaten or not fertilized??

If he is infertile, can I safely try to rematck Cleo with another angel

Heidi

Isabella

I really doubt he is infertile. I think you need patience, that is all Besides, maybe water conditions are not good enough for the eggs to survive? Though this is probably not the case either. If you want to breed angels, it's best to have a temperature of 79 - 80F, very clean water (0 nitrate, if possible), and a very good diet (i.e. variety of flakes, bloodworms, and brine shrimp). The pH should be around neutral, if not slightly acidic. BUT, they will probably breed even in slightly alkaline pH since they're commercially-bred angelfish, not angels collected from nature and imported to fish stores.

Butterfly

Could you possibley have two females? If not that then gizmo may just be immature yet.
Carol

skippi

Thanks for the info Carol, we will find out soon they just layed more eggs. Gizmo is the older of the 2 fish. I have had him over i year now. Cleo is less then I year old. Gizmo has a small pin like breeding tube unlike cleos larger one. They are incredibly good at protecting the eggs so I think he just doesn't have the hang of it yet. The water Is good no ammonia or nitates. We will see what happens this time. :

Heidi

dan da man3042

i would like to get some angles soon and try to breed them. how do u tell male from female?mayb u can give me lots of info .
hope the lil ones live and hatch. common cleo u can do it and gizmo 2
dan
p.s. keep us posted on whot happens

skippi

welp, no luck again all the eggs are gone. He better get it right soon or I am going to wring his lil neck...!!! :P Will have to wait and see what happens next time. this is so frustrating being patient.. I want Babies!!!!!! Just like a man to screw things up..hahaha

Heidi

Butterfly

HAHAHAHA(sorry) From the description of their breeding tubes you do indeed have a pair. Could something else be eating the eggs?
Carol

Butterfly

You could always remove the parents after they get done laying
Crol

Isabella

You cannot tell which one is which until they begin breeding. When they breed, a female has a rounded breeding tube under her belly, and a male has a pointed breeding tube under his belly.

skippi

They are actually doing good as parents so far. They keep the eggs clean and fan them. They also attack anything that comes close to the eggs. The eggs stay long enough to get white them disapear. I will try to get a pic of my females breeding tube so people can see what it looks like posted on here. Will keep you all updated on our slow progress.

Heidi

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skippi

ok just look in the tank and I got more eggs again. hopefully will get some wigglers this time. please Let me be lucky this time...

Heidi

skippi

Ok well over half of the eggs are gone already don't know what did it this time. But atleast I know that gizmo does follow behind and "try " to ffertilize the eggs. If he has anything coming out is the next problem. I am debating removing the last few eggs to another tank to see if they can atleast make it to wigglers or not. What do you think Should I remove them from the tank now or just wait for the next batch and see what happens

Heidi