johnplecobeginner

ive just been out and brought 3 koi angelfish and 3 marble angelfish roughly the size of a 50p piece im hoping that within 1 year i will have a lovely batch or two of angel fish but knowing my luck ill have 6 blokes lol i dont want gay fish,,,
within the next 15 months i fully intend on succesfully breeding
axolotl
angelfish
and pleco
i may well get myself another tank or two set up so i can buy some full sized fish of any sort so my breeding can start within months,,
any recommendations for fish that are sort of tricky to breed as i fancy a challenge,,,

aquarist48

Well maybe you'll get lucky and get 6 females?

CHoffman

Sounds like you'll be busy for awhile with all that breeding. What kind of pleco are you looking at breeding.

johnplecobeginner

im gonna start off with trying to breed my common plecs i have 3 including 1 albino also i have a red sailfin,, im kinda hoping that genetics wont stand in the way and they will at least attempt to mix breed,, my LFS has just bread dozens of albino bristlenose and im up for some of that,, i think once i get the art of breeding my commons ill experiment with s few more breeds, maybe gold nugget or green phantom,, obviously i have a dream of one day owning a breeding zebra pleco but that is no more than a pipe dream for me at the moment,

CHoffman

Common Plecos are very hard to breed in the aquarium. It would be a huge undertaking to try...They would need a huge tank, they are hard to sex, very aggressive, and they like to breed in muddy caves along a river bank. usually people use ponds to breed them...I would start with something much easier. Right now I'm raising 6 L-144's to breed, It's allot of work and commitment. I did a TON of research and had allot of input from some good people on this site. Here is my thread about it...Breeding Journal

The best advice I can give you if your wanting to breed anything is to research and research some more. Then make sure your prepared and have everything you need.
Good luck with your breeding, keep us posted. It's always fun to see little babies.

johnplecobeginner

i fully intend to try and replicate a mud bank as mad as that sounds, i have a 7ft x 2ft x2ft tank in storage and when i have a pair then i will get it ready,,,
i have an idea to put a layer of top soil on the bottom of the tank, and build it right up on 1 side with plenty of tubes going right into the mud bank,, im even thinking about maybe putting a cave of some sort into it under the mud banks with the breeding tubes leading to it,, sounds extreme but its something i wanna try,, i have done plenty of research but ive only been able to research what i can find on here.

jack--sos

you will need to make it a very big mud bank, becuase common plecos breed by digging holes into it (im not sure how big) because some can get to 24" im guessing it will dig a VERY large hole.

If you want a challange you cold get ALOT of small tanks and breed some Bettas :P

CHoffman

Sounds like you've done your research, which is great. Here in the US common plecos are very cheap and sold WAY to often. Very few people can actually care for them properly since they need such a huge tank, yet they are sold to people who have 2.5 gallon tanks. It's very sad and it's actually quite a problem in the U.S. Not sure if it's the same where you live. If it is I would urge you to try a different pleco, If it's not then go for it ...I'm eager to see how you do this and if your successful. You'll have to keep us posted on all your breeding ventures.

johnplecobeginner

i reckon on that thought process its prob not a great idea to frequently breed them if i manage to do it,, but i reckon i iwe it to myself to give it a try and if i can get 1 spawn out of it id be chuffed to bits, as for smaller plecos im sure i saw a forum somewhere which gave a list of 30 maybe i should search for that and give that a try,, L200 seems like a good number to start at..

CHoffman

LOL..I would be very impressed if you were able to breed them. I'm not well educated on other types of plecos yet..I just dove into research on the kind I'm breeding. But L-200's are very pretty, Green Phantom right??. Keep us posted.

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