Butterfly

Ok I have to fess up. I was really tired last night and I was fooling with the sexing angelfish sticky and somehow I managed to delete the whole thread . I'm so sorry. A lot of good discussion was lost. BUT... I have the pics that were included in the thread so here goes.
These are skippi's angels
Male and female breeding tubes:

Butterfly

These are Shawnies angels. Look at the different shapes of their heads. It is becoming more and more popular to sex Angelfish in this way. The first is male and the second is female. Thanks shawnie
Carol

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Butterfly

Here's two more for comparison. The top one is female (breeding tube showing) The other smaller one is a male.

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Shawnie

has this pair been seen laying eggs physically by eye? because the top one looks like my male and the breeding tube looks like my males tube also and ive seen them in action LOL (poor things never get any privacy..but it dont stop them)

Butterfly

Yes I even have pics of their fry and the top one paired with another after her mate died
Top is son bottom is mom(same as top in that pic)
Second is mom and fry
third is two of their older fry (not a very good pic sorry)
Their names were George and Gracie LOL my DIL named them
Carol

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Shawnie

well if they literally saw eggs coming from the top one, I mean the eggs coming out, my theory is totally blown because the top is totally looking like a male comapred to the bottom and it has the same tube LOL ...so much for that hahah

Butterfly

Yep this was my first pair to spawn and your right they didn't get any privacy LOL I have observed her depositing eggs on a rock.
Carol

mathas

First picture is a female, note the enlarged breeding tube. This picture was taken about 5 minutes before they began laying eggs.

Second picture has the male up front with the female in the background. Note the smaller, more pointed breeding tube.

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josephtsui

mathas, they look really similar except their breeding tubes..

mathas

Yes, they do.

That's why I don't have a ton of faith in any other method of sexing angels.

josephtsui

yey.
in fact, ur female seems to have a small bump on her forehead... ??
(plus, can you please go to my thread and help me with sexing my angels?)
It is time to separate them...

ak>47

in general male angels will have longer fins and their extended fins (sorry i don't now what their called) are longer than their anal fin. Females extended fin will be much smaller than their anal fin. Males will be more inquisitive in searching for fry (live bearers) and will show more aggression.

cerianthus

Not true imo. Females do have as long and graceful anl, dorsal fins.

gt-ere

i think that i have two blokes not a male and a female. Both of their tubes seem to be pointy.

Bad Wolf

so females have a larger breeding tube? in this case, i think mine is a male, he's only 3 inches tall including fins, does the tube always show or is it only when breeding?

f1ea

There's at least 1 female, as they have deposited eggs twice, but they all turned white despite their great parenting.

See their story: Angelfish breeding (w/ pics)

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Tony G.

So how can you really tell them apart? i know the male has a crest on his head, but how can you tell them apart when theyre young?

Butterfly

There are all kinds of ways to "guesstimate" their gender but the only sure fire way is to see them spawn.
Carol

aquarist48

Hello Aagna,

I am moving your post to create a thread of its own so that it gets the attention it deserves. It will appear in just a moment. You can always find your threads by clicking on My Threads in the blue bar close to the top of the screen.

Here is the link to your new thread:
angel fish male or female?

Thanks!
Ken

crzychickenlady

Here's my mating pair. The big one on the left is the male, the one to the right is the female.

I have no clue how to sex them, I know this because I saw her place the eggs and him follow behind and fertilize.



And again, the male in front and female in back

endlessendlers

Not always. I have a smokey lace and a leopard, both males, whose tubes are always showing. My other angels' tubes sometimes show when their bellies are full.

lynnk

one thing to add different they what everyone has told you that i have read on was that the two fins that hang off there belly, if they split then it is a male if they do not then it is a female. i have three that the fins split and one that does not. the one that does not is my female i have watched her lay eggs and her tube is huge, and the one that does is my male his tube is smaller and he will usually follow behind her to ferilize them

catsma_97504

Where did you hear that the ventral fins are split on males? I have more than a dozen proven males and not one has split ventrals. So, I'm curious about this.

lynnk

go to google images and type in sexing angelfish and it is right there. they say on a male the fins fork and do not on a female

catsma_97504

I just looked. And, you are misinformed. Not one site indicated that a forked ventral fin pointed to sex. Every image is pointing you to the breeding tube. Some are even my own images of angels I've kept over the years.

After keeping and breeding angels for 20 years, the only time there were split fins was from illness or from fighting. I even went to all my tanks and looked at my males. Not one has a forked ventral fin.

lynnk

http://www.petfishtalk.com/images/an...nder_w1200.gif


http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/fi...fish-male.html

there is were i found it!

streetdog

@Lynnk

I will 75% disagree with the chart. So far I owned 30 + healthy adult angel fish.

1) I have had a larger females than males at times.
2) In 1 of my tank a female also has a bump over her head and she laid eggs today.
3) Smoothed & forked front fin, I disagree. I have both males and females with both the type of front fin.

However, I do agree with 1 point, that is the tube.

The bumb, froked/smoothed front fin & larger body size is completely depend on the gene (where they come from).

catsma_97504

I agree with Lucky. That drawing has more false statements than truths. You cannot trust everything on the Internet.