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Old July 15th, 2009  
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BGA algea

Hay all I have a question has anyone on this forum used Ultralife Blue-Green Algae Remover ? I have read on a few forums that it works great and does not hurt plants or inverts but wipes out BGA and BBA. I have a 75gal tank and have been fighting it for 6 months. Blackouts and all I think this will be the next step. What do ya all think?
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Old July 15th, 2009  
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Hello hop. I can't be of much help to you concerning the Ultralife Blue-Green Algae Remover because I've never used it. Personally I would try the blackout before adding that chemical into the tank. Does it say on the bottle that it will NOT harm the bacteria cycle? I'm sure you'll get some more responses soon.
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Old July 15th, 2009  
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Before you use a chemical check these two articles out Please The first was written by one of our members Sirdarksol and it is very informative. BGA is not really an algae but a bacteria and needs to be handled differently than algae.
http://www.fishlore.com/aquariummaga...nobacteria.htm
http://www.plantgeek.net/article_viewer.php?id=9
Keep us posted please.
carol
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Old July 15th, 2009  
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Thanks Butterfly I know its a bacteria and have read everthing I could if on the internet. I've increased water flow with power jets, Blackout for 5 days with zero light, Added airstone, tryed everything but comes back in a few days, water changes, cutting back my plants light everything going to sell the tank and buy a new one if it doesn't change soon. My house is starting to smell like a moss pit. Water is testing perfect and I don't use any chem in any of my tanks but Execl for my plants which hasn't killed the aglea either. If theres any thing else you can think of I'll try it.

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Old July 15th, 2009  
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And yes everybody who has used this in diffrent forums said it had zero impact on there bacteria cycle nor did it hurt any plants. Which is good because I only have live plants in it.
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Old July 15th, 2009  
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Do you happen to know what ingredients are in that product? All of the supposed 'BGA killers' I've seen are usually copper based...
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Old July 15th, 2009  
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Do you happen to know what ingredients are in that product? All of the supposed 'BGA killers' I've seen are usually copper based...
No one really knows, and Ultralife isn't very forthcoming. Their website just says "UltraLife BGR contains natural cellular matter, select biological accelerators and special supplements proven effective in removing Blue Green Algae" and "Contains NO ALGAECIDES OR ERYTHROMYCIN SUCCINATE.." (http://www.ultralifedirect.com/HTML/...en_remover.htm)

Even people who have requested the MSDS don't have a very clear understanding of what's in it (http://forum.aquatic-gardeners.org/viewtopic.php?p=6006), though I've never seen it myself.

I've read several posts saying it behaves like sodium percarbonate, which is a chemical that breaks down into hydrogen peroxide when dissolved in water.

Whether that's actually the case for this product, I have no clue, but I've read quite a few posts from people who used this with good results and no loss of plant/fish life.
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Old July 15th, 2009  
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No one really knows, and Ultralife isn't very forthcoming. Their website just says "UltraLife BGR contains natural cellular matter, select biological accelerators and special supplements proven effective in removing Blue Green Algae" and "Contains NO ALGAECIDES OR ERYTHROMYCIN SUCCINATE.." (http://www.ultralifedirect.com/HTML/...en_remover.htm)

Even people who have requested the MSDS don't have a very clear understanding of what's in it (http://forum.aquatic-gardeners.org/viewtopic.php?p=6006), though I've never seen it myself.

I've read several posts saying it behaves like sodium percarbonate, which is a chemical that breaks down into hydrogen peroxide when dissolved in water.

Whether that's actually the case for this product, I have no clue, but I've read quite a few posts from people who used this with good results and no loss of plant/fish life.
Interesting....
Thanks for the info. Personally I won't use it until I know for sure what's in it, but good to know it's out there I guess...
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Old July 15th, 2009  
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Thanks Butterfly I know its a bacteria and have read everthing I could if on the internet. I've increased water flow with power jets, Blackout for 5 days with zero light, Added airstone, tryed everything but comes back in a few days, water changes, cutting back my plants light everything going to sell the tank and buy a new one if it doesn't change soon. My house is starting to smell like a moss pit. Water is testing perfect and I don't use any chem in any of my tanks but Execl for my plants which hasn't killed the aglea either. If theres any thing else you can think of I'll try it.
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And yes everybody who has used this in diffrent forums said it had zero impact on there bacteria cycle nor did it hurt any plants. Which is good because I only have live plants in it.

Now to your original question- i checked the website for this product and it says the main reason for cyanobacteriais Nitrates and ammonia. Does your water source test positive for either of these?
sorry checked chemi pure not the product you were asking abut. Senior moment I guess
Carol

Last edited by Butterfly; July 15th, 2009 at 04:09 PM. Reason: to correct info.
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Old July 16th, 2009  
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no there is zero ammonia pH is 7.4 nititrites 0 nitrates 0.5 some times 0 when plants have a growth spert. Also believe me guys I hate adding chems for any reason. I took out all plastic plants an planted real one's to try and make an Ecosystem the fish would love. I just can't kill the BGA. Before that I had GW Found the cause solved it (that was 3 months) then BGA. The only thig I haven't tried is UV.

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Old July 16th, 2009  
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If you have it available to you a UV might be a good idea. It could be useful later. I'm sorry I can't be more helpful
Carol
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Old July 17th, 2009  
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Thank Butterfly and I can get a 32watt UV twister light used from my LFS guy for under 100 bucks going to try it when I get home but if it doesn't work I think I going to give the weed killer a try LOL. I'll keep ya posted.
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Old July 25th, 2009  
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I had same problem and I tried everything without chemical use. Blackout didn't work and 100% water change didn't work. Always BG algae came back. Finally I gave up and started all over. sanitized tank, filters, boiled gravel. Finally seems no algae! Iknow UV light will work, but kind of expensive and need plumbing work.
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Old July 26th, 2009  
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not going to cycle a tank with fish. bring on the weed killer
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Old August 10th, 2009  
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Well guy's I hate chems but I broke down and used it. It's a small pill bottle with pink powder. Added it to the water 2 days later not a trace was left. I couldn't believe it gone even off the plants. There was know ill effects at all the plants are growning and coming back stronger form being choked by the algea.This stuff is great. It's been 7 days and no sign of it coming back. will let you know if it does. I'm happy again!!!!!
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Old August 10th, 2009  
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Glad it worked out for you, thanks for letting us knw how it turned out
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